Michael Malice

The Trotsky idea, and this is really kind of the Marxist idea, is that the workers' revolution has to be worldwide.

This is just a worldwide kind of new era of humanity, where Stalin's like, no, no, we're just going to make it here and then later behind what became the Iron Curtain.

But this was...

Sure, this was an ideological division between the two, but what happens in totalitarian countries, it happens in any kind of like, you know, when you have intermingling of like religion and government, things that are like ideological disputes, like the Aryan heresy.

The Aryan heresy in Christianity is that Christ is subordinate to God the Father, right?

Whereas the contemporary Orthodox version, it's one God and three person, excuse me.

So they're all co-equal aspects of God and heaven.

But that was an excuse to be like, you guys are evil.

You're on the side of the devil.

We're going to kill you.

So these little disputes about ideas are often a convenient cover for people to have a power struggle.

In the guise of being like, it's not that I'm about wanting to be more powerful.

I'm just on the side of the truth and you're speaking lies and that's dangerous to the revolution or to the true faith.

So he squeezed Trotsky, but the thing is Trotsky had the seeds of his own defeat because per Trotsky, the party is always right.

You cannot be right against the party, right?

So if you have this kind of party structure and the party is saying you're wrong as an individual, you are wrong because the collective is what makes decisions.

The collective, the workers are who have the knowledge and the information.

And it is important for you to kind of subordinate your selfishness, your individualism to this greater good.

So he kind of set himself up in many ways.

It would be very hard because he was Jewish.