Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Your face. I have carprosy sarcoma. Oh, I didn't know. Yeah. No, I just wanted to have a fun look. It's my 10th time.
And what is a Lichtenstein?
Is that what you said? Roy Lichtenstein. Who's that? Do you know who it is?
Yeah.
You know the pictures. Pull up Drowning Girl. Jamie, pull it up. I get to say it. This guy. He's a comic book artist. No, he's a pop artist. He drew comic books into paintings in the 60s.
You've seen his stuff. Oh, I'm sure. I have now. I've seen them in memes. Exactly. Like a man backhanding a woman? No. No? No. Well, he's stepping on her hand right there. That's his hand. It's a guy's hand.
Oh, it's a guy's hand.
It's a cop, I think. It's a feminine man. Oh, Jeff, I love you too, but, okay. The dots, I get it.
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Chapter 2: Why does Michael Malice mention the QAnon shaman?
Bush comes to shove, processed food you should avoid. Whole food, natural food is probably better for you. That's just a good heuristic for anyone. But when you're talking about the mind... You know, people argue, are human beings basically good? Are human beings basically bad? I think human beings are basically animals.
And animals can be enormously collaborative and wonderful and work together, even across species. You see these videos of, like, a dog saving a cow or whatever it is. But animals are also, I don't need to tell you, you know, there's that chimp in all of us. And when that mob starts fomenting, like, people want blood and they love it.
Yeah. You also get all this powerful reinforcement from other people in the group that tell you that you're doing the right thing and they support you.
And if you the thing with the Epstein stuff online is just really kind of like I remember five minutes ago. Right. For the for the the blue pill people on covid. If you don't care about covid as much as I do. And if you aren't informed as covid as much as I am, you want to kill grandma. You're told this explicitly.
Your kids should be taken away from you, should be banned from society.
Right. And my buddy, Lou Perez, who's a great comic, he had a great tweet. He goes, if you don't have COVID, you can't spread COVID. I can't give it to you just because I'm a bad person, right? But that was the mindset. And now there's so much. There's what, 3 million Epstein docs? If you are not as invested as some people, you are a kid toucher. You're covering for them. You want this to happen.
You're complicit retroactively somehow. And I can't make heads or tails of it. I had Luke Rakowski on my show who's been a conspiracy. I'm not saying it in a negative way. Conspiracy guy for a very long time. He used to work with Alex. He broke it down. Then I had Michael Tracy on my show, and he said, look, a lot is hysteria. I don't know.
who is right, who is wrong, but if I have any kind of skepticism, I am somehow wanting children to be abused. It's insane.
Well, it's also, it's like so much of it is cryptic. Like, we don't necessarily understand what they were talking about.
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Chapter 3: What concerns does Michael Malice express about social media and AI?
But I don't know. We don't. I can't even finish the sentence.
Right, right. No, but you're honest. That's why. Now, the Russian thing, is there anything that makes sense to you to that? What is this going on here? New documents show Justice Department documents mention Russia thousands of times, Vladimir Putin over a thousand times, reflecting extensive Russia-related communications and contacts in Epstein's network. Emails, travel records indicate.
Okay, so there's real something to it. Epstein made multiple trips to Russia, obtained business visas, had scouts there recruiting young Russian women for him, of course, similar to his operations elsewhere. The files describe Epstein cultivating ties with Russian political and business elites, acting as a facilitator in deals and introductions, not just sexual encounters.
Epstein repeatedly sought a meeting or back channel communications with President Vladimir Putin, at times suggesting he had advice or insight to offer about dealing with Donald Trump. He had documented ties to at least one former Russian official with a background in the FSB. whom he used to gather information on a woman he claimed was trying to extort his business partners.
Well, for sure you're going to have that. You've got a bunch of Russian hookers that you're bringing over there. Some of them are going to try to extort you.
Putin was ex-KGB. The KGB for decades, for like almost a century, was blackmailing Americans. This is one of the big reasons why you couldn't be, there were restrictions against gays, because if you were gay at a time when it was socially unacceptable and the Russians found out about it, they flipped you.
Because they would sit you down and they'd be like, look, we know we're going to out you or you're going to play ball. And in those situations, you're going to play ball. This is a huge scandal for a long time.
And that's a big – there's a lot. There's a large percentage. I don't know what the population is of these undercover gay politicians. Yeah. I don't mean politicians.
I mean the bureaucrats, like people working for Johnson and FDR. This was a thing. And they would know.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of fraud in political discussions?
Yes. Nobody's talking about the fraud anymore. Everybody's talking about ICE being murderers. Right.
Yeah. So it worked.
It worked.
So that's what I'm saying. If there's more fraud exposed, I don't know that it's going to work against Newsom.
Well, it depends on how the trials lay out. So if people wind up going to trial over this and people wind up getting indicted over this, that could get more interesting because then you remove it from Minnesota and then it becomes this federal court thing. And so then it becomes mainstream public news if they do this correctly. But if there is something there.
But the thing is you have to worry about if the judge is going to be complicit and if the prosecutor is going to be complicit and the media is also. You've got to kind of fly that arrow through three hoops.
Yeah, you've got to go through the bushes and make a small hole to shoot through.
Yeah. And then to try to make it indicate, and then it'd be very easy for Newsom to be like, I'm so glad this got exposed. I promise you, as president, this won't happen in America. And if you want to talk corruption, look at Trump and all his sweetheart deals, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Chapter 5: How does the conversation shift to the topic of Epstein and his connections?
Hillary's already throwing him under the bus about Epstein. They don't have shame. What is she saying? Hillary's like, Trump's in the files thousands of times. Like, let's have this conversation. She started already.
Right, right. What does that mean, though, when you're in the file thousands of times? Because he is the guy that was in contact with the FBI about Epstein. He did contact the FBI after Epstein was arrested and thanked them for arresting him and getting him because that guy was a real problem. Right. And he did kick him out of Mar-a-Lago in 2005.
But she's being factual, but not truthful. So it is factual that his name is in the files. Yes. And then you leave it for the person listening to make that conclusion.
Right. That's all you have to say. That's all you have to say. We were talking to Dono Rawlings yesterday. He's in the files. Okay. Because Epstein went to visit his show, went to watch his show at Improv in West Palm Beach.
I did a search for the word retarded. And the one email I found was someone like, can you mail me that photo where I look fat and retarded? That's it? It's not clear from who. It's to Epstein.
It's redacted. No one wants to know they were admitted they look fat and retarded.
Or the N-words in there are a fair amount also.
Well, there's a lot of references to pizza. You know, I think there's thousands of references to pizza and jerky. The jerky and the pizza. And grape soda. Yeah. Well, grape, the thing about grape soda is grape is like what people do to get around the algorithm when they're discussing rape. He graped them. But this was like 2011.
I don't think people knew about that stuff.
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Chapter 6: What are the effects of aspartame on cognitive health?
Right. And I don't think Epstein as a boomer knows how to get around algorithms.
Right, that's not an algorithm thing. It's just a code thing.
So I thought maybe it's a black thing, but then... Grape soda?
Oh, right.
Yeah, but then he's racist. There's like things about don't bring black people.
Oh, really? Oh, yeah. He says don't bring black people to the parties?
Something to that effect. Please double check me on this, but it was something that he was not, no black girls. Oh, no black girls. Interesting. Huh. So, yeah. The other thing that I'm kind of stunned at is there's this belief online that if there's enough agitation, like QAnon, we're all going to have these mass arrests. And I don't see that happening.
And I don't think you can do anything to force them to release the really bad stuff if they haven't.
So what else is left? There's 3 million other files. They said they released everything. Well, they also said there wasn't anything. Right. You know, when Cash Patel was on here, it's like there's no videos, there's no evidence, there's no nothing.
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Chapter 7: How long does it take to become a legitimate standup comedian?
Right. Yeah. You got to get in and you got to, the thing about standup is like you're making a mountain one layer of paint at a time. It's not, it's not a quick process to become a standup. Most people agree. And it's not a hard, fast rule because it's depending upon how much actual time you do and how much focus. And the general rule is 10 years. Really? Yeah. The general rule is 10 years.
People don't really think of you as being legit until you've been in it for 10 years. I don't know that I have 10 years. I don't know if anybody has 10 years. I don't know if the human race has 10 years. You see those robots in China that are doing fucking Kung Fu? Are there already? Oh, my God. They just did this demonstration, this martial arts demonstration with these robots on a stage.
It's crazy how fucking, how they move.
I'm more worried about if anyone can use AI to engineer a bioweapon.
Chapter 8: What are the concerns surrounding AI and bioweapons?
Yeah, that's real.
Because there was a piece, a guy, I forget his name, I apologize, where he's one of these big AI people. And he goes, if you use the paid for AI, he goes, I can tell it to write me code. And it also knows idiosyncratic preferences. So it's better than hiring a person. And that's today. So what's gonna happen in two years, three years? How do you put guardrails on that? I don't think you can.
I don't think you can. And there's a lot of people that are resigning from a lot of these companies that are saying, we're doomed.
Yeah. I'm not a doom and gloom kind of guy. But that, I think, is a much faster path toward something happening than robots, Kung Fu robots.
Well, there's also automated weapons, weapon systems that are totally autonomous. Is that right? Yes. The government's working on that. And I believe there was an issue. See if you can find this. With one of the AI companies not willing to partner with the – or not willing to – do something with autonomous weapons programs. I think it's Anthropic. Oh, wow. Yeah.
I think Anthropic was like, we don't think that's good. And all the other ones are like, let's go. Holy shit. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the thing is, is China doing that? They probably are. Anthropic is clashing with the Pentagon over AI use. Here's what each side wants. Anthropic's relationship with the Department of Defense is...
is under review as the two sides negotiate over how the company's AI models can be used. Startup wants assurance that its models will not be used for autonomous weapons or mass surveillance. Oh my God, these pop-ups are brutal. Fuck you, CNBC. The DoD wants to use anthropic models for all lawful use cases.
Without limitation, according to Emil Michael, the Undersecretary of War for Research and Engineering.
Holy crap.
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