Michael Malice

I haven't, but I'm familiar with that.

I haven't read it.

Yeah, there was a scene in the book where...

a lot of times people literally go crazy.

And there's a scene where a mom in some nursing, a train station was nursing her kid and she was, you know, going mad from hunger and she just starts beating the crap out of her baby and kicking it and then she just reverts to normal like nothing had happened.

Yeah, madness.

Yeah, and...

I mean, I don't know what the physiological cause of this.

I think if someone has dealt with a glycogen depletion, it affects their mood, things like that.

So taken to an extreme, who knows what happens when parts of the brain start functioning and start imploding.

But yeah, what just happened, this is something that's really cool regarding the Holodomor.

So there was one...

Western journalist, Gareth Jones, who was like, all right, something's not adding up here.

So he was supposed to take a train through Ukraine and he got out early and decided to start walking through the countryside to go from village to village.

And I'll get to his story in a minute.

Right before we started recording, I got this book in the mail.

I ordered it on November 28th from Great Britain.

It was the only copy available on the whole internet.

It's called Experiences in Russia, 1931.

It is anonymous.