Michael Malice

And when they went there, they were just like, this is a complete nightmare.

They both individually had meetings with Lenin, complaining about political prisoners, complaining about lack of free speech.

He told them, you know, this is a revolutionary time.

You could do that later.

And when they both left, she wrote, her memoir was split into two books, My Disillusionment in Russia and My First Disillusionment in Russia.

He wrote The Bolshevik Myth.

And she was in England and she gave a speech

And she's just like, if you guys think this is for the workers, this is the biggest lie I've ever heard.

Like they're oppressing the workers like no capitalist has ever imagined.

And, you know, as she described it, like people were just shifting their seats.

They were interrupting her.

And when she opened her talk, she had a standing ovation.

And when she was done, you could hear a pin drop.

So they didn't want to hear it because this was this kind of, and Eugene Lyons talks about it later.

This was like the guinea pig theory of the Russian people.

Like we're going to experiment on them over there.

If it works, great, we're right.

If it's wrong, it's their problem.

And sure, these animals squeal, but they're beneath us.

And of course, they're going to make some noise.