Michael Malice

That's epigenetic.

I don't think the...

That changes the nature of man.

I think, for example, if I say someone, which I agree with, that someone is innocent until proven guilty, they're not literally innocent.

They're regarded in a legal context as innocent, but that person is or is not a murderer or thief or so on and so forth.

So we can...

Legally and ethically regard everyone as equal, but as Thomas Sowell pointed out, a human being isn't even equal to himself over the course of a day.

Twins who are genetic clones are not equal to one another.

So it is an important thing legally, and it's a good yardstick, but it's not literally true.

No, I think it's a complete red herring because no one is- No, you're a red herring.

See what I did there?

Because people are still going to always prefer their family to strangers or their in-group to out-group.

So in terms of if you're going to have equality, that means it's going to not matter to you whether someone is your mom or someone is someone down the street.

And I don't see how that will ever become the case.

No, I don't think at all.

I think there was so many...

out of nowhere turns that no one would have seen them coming.

And as an example, Lenin seizing power and making the Bolshevik revolution a reality was regarded as utopian and insane.

The fact that he pulled it off is close to miraculous, and it was quite literally unprecedented.

So that's a very big one.