Michael McClafferty

But the reality is here as well.

Control has been mentioned quite a lot of times here this morning throughout the conversation here.

And the reality is we don't seem to be controlling things as such.

For example, if the government and the Minister of Agriculture are really concerned about controlling things, get the proper fencing up, get them into their parks again.

They're getting out of their national parks here and there due to fences being broken and whatnot, fences not being replaced.

The proof is here in Donegal, like to see.

The fences are broken, Clare, the fences are down.

Killian will know this as well.

So, I mean, if people feel college is not the answer, fair enough, but put the focus on the fencing, put the focus on the control.

Keep them in where they should be.

It's not helping when they're running riot.