Michael McFaul

Well, Rich, I spent most of my day today with Ukrainians, including soldiers. They're fighting and they fought courageously for three years. But when they hear our president say that he trusts Vladimir Putin and that he's going to do a deal with Vladimir Putin and then present it to the Ukrainian people and they experience what you are just showing your viewers, there's a lot of dissonance there.

Well, Rich, I spent most of my day today with Ukrainians, including soldiers. They're fighting and they fought courageously for three years. But when they hear our president say that he trusts Vladimir Putin and that he's going to do a deal with Vladimir Putin and then present it to the Ukrainian people and they experience what you are just showing your viewers, there's a lot of dissonance there.

They don't trust Putin. Putin is their enemy. And it makes them very nervous when the president of the United States, who they need and rely on to continue to fight against the Russians, are saying he trusts Putin.

They don't trust Putin. Putin is their enemy. And it makes them very nervous when the president of the United States, who they need and rely on to continue to fight against the Russians, are saying he trusts Putin.