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Michael Pollan

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ZOE Science & Nutrition
Why you can't stop eating: The science of cravings, food addiction and 5 ways to regain control | Michael Pollan & Prof Tim Spector

Our agriculture was a lot more diversified before really the 70s.

ZOE Science & Nutrition
Why you can't stop eating: The science of cravings, food addiction and 5 ways to regain control | Michael Pollan & Prof Tim Spector

During the Nixon administration, there was a real spike in the price of food.

ZOE Science & Nutrition
Why you can't stop eating: The science of cravings, food addiction and 5 ways to regain control | Michael Pollan & Prof Tim Spector

There had been a grain deal with the Russians that was kept secret, and when the word came out, grain prices went crazy.

ZOE Science & Nutrition
Why you can't stop eating: The science of cravings, food addiction and 5 ways to regain control | Michael Pollan & Prof Tim Spector

And food inflation became very high, much higher than it is now.

ZOE Science & Nutrition
Why you can't stop eating: The science of cravings, food addiction and 5 ways to regain control | Michael Pollan & Prof Tim Spector

And President Nixon knew that if the price of food didn't come down, he wasn't going to get reelected.

ZOE Science & Nutrition
Why you can't stop eating: The science of cravings, food addiction and 5 ways to regain control | Michael Pollan & Prof Tim Spector

So he brought in a brilliant agricultural economist.

ZOE Science & Nutrition
Why you can't stop eating: The science of cravings, food addiction and 5 ways to regain control | Michael Pollan & Prof Tim Spector

named Earl Butts and said, your job is to drive down the price of food.

ZOE Science & Nutrition
Why you can't stop eating: The science of cravings, food addiction and 5 ways to regain control | Michael Pollan & Prof Tim Spector

And Butts knew exactly how to do it.

ZOE Science & Nutrition
Why you can't stop eating: The science of cravings, food addiction and 5 ways to regain control | Michael Pollan & Prof Tim Spector

And he basically encouraged farmers and changed the incentive structure so that they would plant one crop, a fence row to fence row is what he said,

ZOE Science & Nutrition
Why you can't stop eating: The science of cravings, food addiction and 5 ways to regain control | Michael Pollan & Prof Tim Spector

and consolidate so that if your neighbor was a weaker player than you were, you would buy your neighbor out and the fields got bigger and the diversity declined and it worked.

ZOE Science & Nutrition
Why you can't stop eating: The science of cravings, food addiction and 5 ways to regain control | Michael Pollan & Prof Tim Spector

We have such overproduction of corn and soy.

ZOE Science & Nutrition
Why you can't stop eating: The science of cravings, food addiction and 5 ways to regain control | Michael Pollan & Prof Tim Spector

Our problem is not too little food, it's too much food.

ZOE Science & Nutrition
Why you can't stop eating: The science of cravings, food addiction and 5 ways to regain control | Michael Pollan & Prof Tim Spector

What do you do with that?

ZOE Science & Nutrition
Why you can't stop eating: The science of cravings, food addiction and 5 ways to regain control | Michael Pollan & Prof Tim Spector

Well, that's why we started making biofuels to get rid of this excess of corn.

ZOE Science & Nutrition
Why you can't stop eating: The science of cravings, food addiction and 5 ways to regain control | Michael Pollan & Prof Tim Spector

And this is the basis of the food system.

ZOE Science & Nutrition
Why you can't stop eating: The science of cravings, food addiction and 5 ways to regain control | Michael Pollan & Prof Tim Spector

So if you have cheap corn, you're going to have cheap meat and cheap milk and cheap butter.

ZOE Science & Nutrition
Why you can't stop eating: The science of cravings, food addiction and 5 ways to regain control | Michael Pollan & Prof Tim Spector

Sure.

ZOE Science & Nutrition
Why you can't stop eating: The science of cravings, food addiction and 5 ways to regain control | Michael Pollan & Prof Tim Spector

There is a system for refining that corn that essentially you can break it down into its component parts.

ZOE Science & Nutrition
Why you can't stop eating: The science of cravings, food addiction and 5 ways to regain control | Michael Pollan & Prof Tim Spector

And if you look at all the ingredients on a package of ultra-processed food and you see maltodextrin and high-fructose corn syrup and soy lecithin, yeah, yeah, all these different manifestations of starch, most of those ingredients can be derived from corn once you've put it through this processing.

ZOE Science & Nutrition
Why you can't stop eating: The science of cravings, food addiction and 5 ways to regain control | Michael Pollan & Prof Tim Spector

And in fact, that technology to figure out what you could do with that packet of starch was developed around the same period.