Michael Pollan

You can just ignore it.

And I find that very helpful.

And I have this sense of a little buzzing going on in this corner, you know, of like thoughts that I'm not paying attention to.

But, you know, as Kalina shows, it's very hard to control this material and things are going to bubble up and they're interesting.

Productivity ideas.

You're thinking about it in terms of an algorithm and a massive data and different things could get pulled into it.

That's not a bad metaphor.

We don't know exactly how it works.

There is still this question of if the workspace idea is true, everything we think should be of some consequence.

And we all know that's not true.

And so why do things that are completely trivial or banal enter our consciousness?

You know, Freud would say we're suppressing more important things.

I mean, you know, there are standards by which that makes sense.

And also, and that pleasure is not driving this, right?

I mean, it's success.

You are learning algorithms, if we're going to use that computer metaphor, that are, even though it doesn't feel good, are promoting the kind of behavior that's going to solve problems and keep everybody happy.

maintain the peace, all these kind of things.

So our minds are invested in our success, not our pleasure.

I talked a lot about how psychedelics inspired this book, but meditation did too.

Because as soon as you stop to examine what's going on in your mind, which many people don't do,