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Michael Saylor

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1883 total appearances

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Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

That was all currency.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

Everything was gold-backed credit.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

If Bitcoin's digital gold is digital capital, then digital credit on top of digital capital is fine.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

You don't need...

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

a heterogeneous capital structure.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

I just described the theory of asset-backed capital.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

You could do it with gold.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

You could do it with paintings.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

You could do it with Manhattan real estate.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

I think a general principle, though, is if you decide to take a company public and be the Manhattan real estate company, then you're better off to focus on Manhattan real estate and not diversify into ice cream trucks and Monet paintings and gold and crypto assets.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

Because

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

Because the business model is within reason infinitely scalable.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

For example, we could sell $100 billion of credit or a trillion of credit and buy a trillion of Bitcoin and everything just works perfectly.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

better you see so diversifying this isn't a question about diversifying this is a question about is accumulation fundamental to strategy or will there become a target that you hit or maybe not a target but just a period of less aggressive issue to understand i'm describing the business model which is we issue credit we acquire capital if we stop issuing credit we'll stop acquiring capital

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

But there's $300 trillion in the credit market, which is currently yielding SOFR plus a spread.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

And the spread is like 80 basis points to 200 basis points.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

So consider, what if we just wanted to convert 5% of that, right?

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

You're getting to $15 trillion of credit.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

And can you pay better than 280 basis point credit spreads?

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

Sure you can.