Michael Shannon

But I feel like he's a pretty plain dealing, straight shooting kind of guy, you know.

And

What was really fascinating to me was just how extraordinarily difficult it was for him to do something that seemed very logical and necessary.

How much opposition he met at every step of the way.

How many people said, you know, you shouldn't do this, or this isn't how we should handle this situation, or let's just shoot him.

Which was the prevailing sentiment among...

a lot of the people in power in America at the time.

Yeah.

And then now, here he is, you know, talking to this very well-meaning, at the time, doctor, and still just meaning so much obstruction.

And it goes all the way throughout the story.

And I think you finally actually, in the showdown with Goering, see him really start to lose it a little bit.

Just say, why is this so difficult?

It's so obvious what's happened.

It seems to be so obvious what the outcome should be.

Why am I having such a hard time doing this?

But I'm so glad that he insisted on it.

You know, it was the first time

in our civilization's history, that there was an international tribunal, I believe.

And it was an important precedent that he established.

I wish that it was being honored more fervently nowadays.