Michael Shellenberger
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1,228 appearances
6 recordings
4 series
first heard Oct 2024
last heard 18 Feb
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No, it's crazy. So, so then like, so they do that. And of course the LA times and Politico and I can't remember other people. They all come out and they go, they go, did she cut the budget? You know, it's complicated, you know? I mean, it's amazing. You know, it's complicated, which is like, yeah, yeah, she did cut.
She did cut the budget, but nobody, the media was not being honest with people about what was really going on until the The fire chief, the lesbians, L.A. County fire chief, to her credit. She was being actually she was being grilled by a local Fox television reporter who was just doing a great job, actually. I mean, just to be handed the local TV, actually, some of the best reporting still.
Great local television. I don't know why. No, I think I agree with you. Yeah. It's fallen off in the Bay Area. They did a little bit better in Oakland when things get really crazy. But she just kept going after her. She just kept asking her over and over again about the about the budget cuts. And she was kind of having a high. Finally, she was just like, yeah, yeah, she did. She cut that money.
And she's like, and did it matter? Yeah, yeah, it mattered. You know, she had sent a letter. I mean, there was a letter from, I think it was December 4th that the fire chief had sent, which said specifically, this is going to reduce our ability to deal with wildfires. She said it twice. Yes, she said it twice in the letter.
So it was a little bit like, okay, you were on the record saying it was going to hurt your ability. So, but then she was like, yes, yes, it did hurt our ability.
um to deal with it then she just was like i think at that point the fire chief she was just like all right you know like um the gloves are off so she goes on cbs and on cnn and reiterates it and with very strong language ice was able to get into this piece that will come out um shortly i was able to get into the weeds a little bit on it but basically there's a hundred fire trucks that are currently um
In the maintenance shop that are just need to be fixed. There's a hundred fire trucks missing. The person I interviewed was like, we could go buy, we could have bought for a hundred million dollars. We could have bought, you know, like a hundred or two hundred.
you know, kind of used fire trucks or whatever, just get fire trucks from wherever, maintain them, and just put them in different points all around the city. You wouldn't necessarily have the staff to deal with them, but you could then, as soon as you get that fire warning, again, on January 1st or January 2nd, you can just fly in firefighters from around the country, from around the world.
You'd just be like, look, we're just going to bring everybody in We don't know what's going to happen. And then they can just go. He was this person was like, you know, we could put like 30 of them at Dodger Stadium. You know, you could just like put these fire trucks that are well maintained, you know.
But so she was like because I didn't quite understand it either because she was like, we didn't have the money for the mechanics. And you're like, well, why do you like what do you need the mechanics for? Well, you need the mechanics to maintain the fire engines. Right.
So, I mean, this is what, you know, it's like when civilization breaks down, it breaks down in like just a million small ways, you know. So, you know, is there some DEI part of it? Yeah, there was. They were promoting people not based on merit. Is there budget cuts? Absolutely. I mean, they didn't, you know, and what goes wrong when you don't have those budget cuts? Everything.
You know, I mean, the other complaint I've heard, you know, is just that. It's just the advanced thinking. It's just getting people that can kind of be thinking in advance. That's where their focus is. That's where their priority is.
So the problem with the DEI is that when you're just orienting an entire organizational culture towards racial and sex quotas rather than towards, okay, you know, what about the Santa Ana wins and the fire risk and whatever? It's just we all know that, like, It's not just time in the day, it's also mind time. It's like, what do you think about when you take a shower?
What do you think about when you're putting on your shoes? Like, where is your head at? Their head has been in the clouds around, you know, DEI, the larger society, ESG, climate, homelessness. I mean... I mean, the list goes on and on. But it was on homelessness. We now know, because the state audit came out, $24 billion on homelessness since Gavin took office in 2019.
Tucker, homelessness in California increased by 40% under Gavin. Can you believe that? I mean, 40%. Because everyone goes, it's such a curious mystery as to we spent all this money on homelessness. And yet, it just increased. It's like, well, yeah, because you spent money incentivizing and subsidizing homelessness. You spent all this money to attract people from all over the United States.
I mean, I interview people in California that are on the streets, and it's like, nobody's from California. I mean, they come in.
Oh, they want to be. See, the thing is like homeless people, they're always lonely, you know? And so they're, obviously these are people in a really bad way and they're eager to tell their story. They have a lot to say. They're not, most of them are not dumb. Some of them are not dumb at all. I was shocked by that. Oh, no. And they do lie, like, at the beginning.
So, I mean, you have to... The secret to all great interviews, as you know more than anybody, is you need to have a long time. Yes. Because people tell the... They lie at first, and then the truth comes out. So, like, you'll interview people, and you'll be like, you're like, where are you from, brother? And they'll be like, oh, I was raised here.
And then you get, like, 30 minutes in the interview, they're like, oh, I'm from Arkansas, you know? I'm from Texas or whatever. So, yeah, I mean... So, yeah, they're from all over. They come, you know, the most famous one I did was with James Church. He had tattoos on his face, and he was just incredible. I just love that interview so much.
I think it was like an hour, hour and a half with him, just holding my iPhone up to him while he's talking. But he was the one who was like... you know, if I'm being honest, you know, they pay people to be homeless here. And I was like, what do you mean by that?
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