Michael Shellenberger

I mean, it's just exists to construct a fantasy reality. And yeah, you would hope that people would be able to compartmentalize. Yeah, my day job is constructing fantasies that we charge. you know, $20 to stream. But I know that when I go home that like all the brush has to be cleared around my house and I have to vote for candidates that are physicalists. I mean, look at physicalists. Yeah.

I mean, it's just exists to construct a fantasy reality. And yeah, you would hope that people would be able to compartmentalize. Yeah, my day job is constructing fantasies that we charge. you know, $20 to stream. But I know that when I go home that like all the brush has to be cleared around my house and I have to vote for candidates that are physicalists. I mean, look at physicalists. Yeah.

I mean, I don't, I mean, I don't know if that's the right word. There's something there. Yeah. Important. They're fantasists. I mean, the other people. I mean, I don't want to use the word idealist because there's too many other connotations to it. But it's just the difference between being your heads up in the clouds as opposed to just being really... You need the firefighter view of the world.

I mean, I don't, I mean, I don't know if that's the right word. There's something there. Yeah. Important. They're fantasists. I mean, the other people. I mean, I don't want to use the word idealist because there's too many other connotations to it. But it's just the difference between being your heads up in the clouds as opposed to just being really... You need the firefighter view of the world.

I mean, I don't, I mean, I don't know if that's the right word. There's something there. Yeah. Important. They're fantasists. I mean, the other people. I mean, I don't want to use the word idealist because there's too many other connotations to it. But it's just the difference between being your heads up in the clouds as opposed to just being really... You need the firefighter view of the world.

You need the cop view of the world. Frankly, you need the homeless guy's view. The homeless people... I mean, they're high a lot, so they're switching in and out, but they have to get their physical needs met.

You need the cop view of the world. Frankly, you need the homeless guy's view. The homeless people... I mean, they're high a lot, so they're switching in and out, but they have to get their physical needs met.

You need the cop view of the world. Frankly, you need the homeless guy's view. The homeless people... I mean, they're high a lot, so they're switching in and out, but they have to get their physical needs met.

I'm sure. Yeah. No, I think that's right. And also, like, parents, we all, I did it too, so I'm not, like, judging. But, like, we talk too much to the kids. Talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. And you see, like, new parents talking to their kid, and the kid's like, what? It's like the peanuts is right. Like, what they hear is the wah-wah, wah-wah. It's so true.

I'm sure. Yeah. No, I think that's right. And also, like, parents, we all, I did it too, so I'm not, like, judging. But, like, we talk too much to the kids. Talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. And you see, like, new parents talking to their kid, and the kid's like, what? It's like the peanuts is right. Like, what they hear is the wah-wah, wah-wah. It's so true.

I'm sure. Yeah. No, I think that's right. And also, like, parents, we all, I did it too, so I'm not, like, judging. But, like, we talk too much to the kids. Talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. And you see, like, new parents talking to their kid, and the kid's like, what? It's like the peanuts is right. Like, what they hear is the wah-wah, wah-wah. It's so true.

As opposed to, like, could you set the table, you know? Could you, you know, like, the kids like, I mean, the kids like to have a job. They want to have a chore. Chores are super, like, kids love that, you know? And so, you know, you're teaching the kids to clean the classroom every morning. Yes. I mean, the problem is the specialization and the wealth. They sort of get disconnected from it.

As opposed to, like, could you set the table, you know? Could you, you know, like, the kids like, I mean, the kids like to have a job. They want to have a chore. Chores are super, like, kids love that, you know? And so, you know, you're teaching the kids to clean the classroom every morning. Yes. I mean, the problem is the specialization and the wealth. They sort of get disconnected from it.

As opposed to, like, could you set the table, you know? Could you, you know, like, the kids like, I mean, the kids like to have a job. They want to have a chore. Chores are super, like, kids love that, you know? And so, you know, you're teaching the kids to clean the classroom every morning. Yes. I mean, the problem is the specialization and the wealth. They sort of get disconnected from it.

Do you know what I mean, though? That's why I'm laughing. And dogs, too. People do it with their dogs. You ever see people with like, you know, whatever. I live in the Berkeley Hills. It's like, you know, older ladies and their dogs and they're just like blah, blah, blah with the dogs. It's like, well, you're not holding the leash tight enough, lady.

Do you know what I mean, though? That's why I'm laughing. And dogs, too. People do it with their dogs. You ever see people with like, you know, whatever. I live in the Berkeley Hills. It's like, you know, older ladies and their dogs and they're just like blah, blah, blah with the dogs. It's like, well, you're not holding the leash tight enough, lady.

Do you know what I mean, though? That's why I'm laughing. And dogs, too. People do it with their dogs. You ever see people with like, you know, whatever. I live in the Berkeley Hills. It's like, you know, older ladies and their dogs and they're just like blah, blah, blah with the dogs. It's like, well, you're not holding the leash tight enough, lady.

You know, you rewarded the dog when he did something bad. You should have rewarded it when it came to you. Anyway, so all these things break down. So deep and true.

You know, you rewarded the dog when he did something bad. You should have rewarded it when it came to you. Anyway, so all these things break down. So deep and true.

You know, you rewarded the dog when he did something bad. You should have rewarded it when it came to you. Anyway, so all these things break down. So deep and true.