Michael Shellenberger

And, you know, the homeless, one of the things you probably have observed is that I think it's like probably a compensating mechanism, but they're just, they're obsessed with collecting tons and tons of garbage. Yes, yes. So they'll, you know, you'll clean up these homeless encampments and you'll be like, oh, wow. Yeah, they're not minimalists. No, no, they're not living the Zen lifestyle.

And, you know, the homeless, one of the things you probably have observed is that I think it's like probably a compensating mechanism, but they're just, they're obsessed with collecting tons and tons of garbage. Yes, yes. So they'll, you know, you'll clean up these homeless encampments and you'll be like, oh, wow. Yeah, they're not minimalists. No, no, they're not living the Zen lifestyle.

And, you know, the homeless, one of the things you probably have observed is that I think it's like probably a compensating mechanism, but they're just, they're obsessed with collecting tons and tons of garbage. Yes, yes. So they'll, you know, you'll clean up these homeless encampments and you'll be like, oh, wow. Yeah, they're not minimalists. No, no, they're not living the Zen lifestyle.

No, it's not banging Ulfsen life. It's like very much. No, no, it's very cluttered, you know. And so they're probably over it. But so, yeah, I mean, they need, you need to, we need to reimpose some limits. You know, there's a, I'm also, I just became really obsessed with the scholar I just discovered who wrote a trilogy on nationalism named Leah Greenfeld. Highly recommend her books.

No, it's not banging Ulfsen life. It's like very much. No, no, it's very cluttered, you know. And so they're probably over it. But so, yeah, I mean, they need, you need to, we need to reimpose some limits. You know, there's a, I'm also, I just became really obsessed with the scholar I just discovered who wrote a trilogy on nationalism named Leah Greenfeld. Highly recommend her books.

No, it's not banging Ulfsen life. It's like very much. No, no, it's very cluttered, you know. And so they're probably over it. But so, yeah, I mean, they need, you need to, we need to reimpose some limits. You know, there's a, I'm also, I just became really obsessed with the scholar I just discovered who wrote a trilogy on nationalism named Leah Greenfeld. Highly recommend her books.

Her first book is called Nationalism. Second book is called Spirit of Capitalism. And the third book is called Mind, Madness, and Modernity. And these books are just incredible. But basically, it's actually L-I-A-H and then Greenfeld. Common spelling. Yeah. L-I-A-H. L-I-A-H. Yeah, she's a Russian. I think she's a Russian Jew who went to Israel, lived in Israel for a long time.

Her first book is called Nationalism. Second book is called Spirit of Capitalism. And the third book is called Mind, Madness, and Modernity. And these books are just incredible. But basically, it's actually L-I-A-H and then Greenfeld. Common spelling. Yeah. L-I-A-H. L-I-A-H. Yeah, she's a Russian. I think she's a Russian Jew who went to Israel, lived in Israel for a long time.

Her first book is called Nationalism. Second book is called Spirit of Capitalism. And the third book is called Mind, Madness, and Modernity. And these books are just incredible. But basically, it's actually L-I-A-H and then Greenfeld. Common spelling. Yeah. L-I-A-H. L-I-A-H. Yeah, she's a Russian. I think she's a Russian Jew who went to Israel, lived in Israel for a long time.

And then her mentor was Edward Schills, the sociologist. Yeah. So she's a sociologist, but the nationalism book is beautiful. I mean, it's like the famous book on nationalism is called Imaginary Communities by Benedict Anderson, and he's a Marxist. And so it's all the whole thing is like him trying to explain how nationalism, why it's so powerful when Marx thought it should wither away.

And then her mentor was Edward Schills, the sociologist. Yeah. So she's a sociologist, but the nationalism book is beautiful. I mean, it's like the famous book on nationalism is called Imaginary Communities by Benedict Anderson, and he's a Marxist. And so it's all the whole thing is like him trying to explain how nationalism, why it's so powerful when Marx thought it should wither away.

And then her mentor was Edward Schills, the sociologist. Yeah. So she's a sociologist, but the nationalism book is beautiful. I mean, it's like the famous book on nationalism is called Imaginary Communities by Benedict Anderson, and he's a Marxist. And so it's all the whole thing is like him trying to explain how nationalism, why it's so powerful when Marx thought it should wither away.

And but she describes now so she defines nationalism. The picture that people have of nationalism is completely wrong. Yes. She describes nationalism as a sovereign community of fundamentally equal individuals who have a shared identity. And so she's like nationalism is fundamentally democratic. Now, you might have some systems that are nationalist, but they don't have proper democracy.

And but she describes now so she defines nationalism. The picture that people have of nationalism is completely wrong. Yes. She describes nationalism as a sovereign community of fundamentally equal individuals who have a shared identity. And so she's like nationalism is fundamentally democratic. Now, you might have some systems that are nationalist, but they don't have proper democracy.

And but she describes now so she defines nationalism. The picture that people have of nationalism is completely wrong. Yes. She describes nationalism as a sovereign community of fundamentally equal individuals who have a shared identity. And so she's like nationalism is fundamentally democratic. Now, you might have some systems that are nationalist, but they don't have proper democracy.

But really, the basic idea is that egalitarian idea that we're Americans, we live here, we have the same solidarity. I've also become – I'll come back to the Greenfield, but I've also been obsessed with Hannah Arendt, who I had never read until recently. I don't think you're allowed to read her anymore. Well, I know.

But really, the basic idea is that egalitarian idea that we're Americans, we live here, we have the same solidarity. I've also become – I'll come back to the Greenfield, but I've also been obsessed with Hannah Arendt, who I had never read until recently. I don't think you're allowed to read her anymore. Well, I know.

But really, the basic idea is that egalitarian idea that we're Americans, we live here, we have the same solidarity. I've also become – I'll come back to the Greenfield, but I've also been obsessed with Hannah Arendt, who I had never read until recently. I don't think you're allowed to read her anymore. Well, I know.

She's too honest. Well, yeah, yeah. She was very, well, it's really in, I read her two books. One is the On Totalitarianism book and the other one is Eichmann in Jerusalem. Eichmann in Jerusalem, it's rough because she describes how the Jewish council participated with the Nazis. I mean, that was what was really controversial there.

She's too honest. Well, yeah, yeah. She was very, well, it's really in, I read her two books. One is the On Totalitarianism book and the other one is Eichmann in Jerusalem. Eichmann in Jerusalem, it's rough because she describes how the Jewish council participated with the Nazis. I mean, that was what was really controversial there.