Michael Shellenberger
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On the other hand, I suspect that there is also some bipartisan group that's trying to prevent that information. There's no doubt about that. So, I mean, look, I mean, it is... I mean, what is gonna happen? I mean, part of me is, maybe it's my defensive pessimism on it, because like everybody else, I want the information.
On the other hand, I suspect that there is also some bipartisan group that's trying to prevent that information. There's no doubt about that. So, I mean, look, I mean, it is... I mean, what is gonna happen? I mean, part of me is, maybe it's my defensive pessimism on it, because like everybody else, I want the information.
Part of me is like, there's just no way they're gonna let that information out. It's just something is too, there's something about the UAP thing, like the JFK thing, where there's some secret there, That they are really, there is some group of people that really don't want us to know. So, you know. Well, that's a fact. Yes.
Part of me is like, there's just no way they're gonna let that information out. It's just something is too, there's something about the UAP thing, like the JFK thing, where there's some secret there, That they are really, there is some group of people that really don't want us to know. So, you know. Well, that's a fact. Yes.
Part of me is like, there's just no way they're gonna let that information out. It's just something is too, there's something about the UAP thing, like the JFK thing, where there's some secret there, That they are really, there is some group of people that really don't want us to know. So, you know. Well, that's a fact. Yes.
I mean, how about the clip where Pompeo is being interviewed about the JFK files? And then he like literally mid-sentence goes, but I mean, I've also seen the UFO files. And it was like, well, why did you just switch from like what made you think of the UFO files on the JFK files? I don't know. I mean, so anyway, is there a secret? Have we developed anti-gravity?
I mean, how about the clip where Pompeo is being interviewed about the JFK files? And then he like literally mid-sentence goes, but I mean, I've also seen the UFO files. And it was like, well, why did you just switch from like what made you think of the UFO files on the JFK files? I don't know. I mean, so anyway, is there a secret? Have we developed anti-gravity?
I mean, how about the clip where Pompeo is being interviewed about the JFK files? And then he like literally mid-sentence goes, but I mean, I've also seen the UFO files. And it was like, well, why did you just switch from like what made you think of the UFO files on the JFK files? I don't know. I mean, so anyway, is there a secret? Have we developed anti-gravity?
I mean, we know that in the 50s, there was a whole book on it. It's very fascinating. But there was an anti-gravity program in the U.S. military with our defense contractors. It made the cover of one of the aerospace magazines. It was like there's a cover of it. And then it just disappeared. Yeah. And so you can kind of go, I mean, the official experts go, yeah, we tried that and it didn't work.
I mean, we know that in the 50s, there was a whole book on it. It's very fascinating. But there was an anti-gravity program in the U.S. military with our defense contractors. It made the cover of one of the aerospace magazines. It was like there's a cover of it. And then it just disappeared. Yeah. And so you can kind of go, I mean, the official experts go, yeah, we tried that and it didn't work.
I mean, we know that in the 50s, there was a whole book on it. It's very fascinating. But there was an anti-gravity program in the U.S. military with our defense contractors. It made the cover of one of the aerospace magazines. It was like there's a cover of it. And then it just disappeared. Yeah. And so you can kind of go, I mean, the official experts go, yeah, we tried that and it didn't work.
It's like, well, that's never stopped you before. Right. Like it not working, like that's like, you know, like you would keep working on it if you can do antigravity. So the other possibility is that it just went dark and they just kept doing it.
It's like, well, that's never stopped you before. Right. Like it not working, like that's like, you know, like you would keep working on it if you can do antigravity. So the other possibility is that it just went dark and they just kept doing it.
It's like, well, that's never stopped you before. Right. Like it not working, like that's like, you know, like you would keep working on it if you can do antigravity. So the other possibility is that it just went dark and they just kept doing it.
Yeah. I mean, the problem with this issue is just, it's very frustrating because it's just all secondhand. Of course it is. And so, like the 100-byte laptop is not secondhand. Like it's firsthand and I have the documents. Now, there are a bunch of really fascinating, you know, alleged U.S., secret U.S. government documents on UFOs, on alleged alien spacecraft crashes.
Yeah. I mean, the problem with this issue is just, it's very frustrating because it's just all secondhand. Of course it is. And so, like the 100-byte laptop is not secondhand. Like it's firsthand and I have the documents. Now, there are a bunch of really fascinating, you know, alleged U.S., secret U.S. government documents on UFOs, on alleged alien spacecraft crashes.
Yeah. I mean, the problem with this issue is just, it's very frustrating because it's just all secondhand. Of course it is. And so, like the 100-byte laptop is not secondhand. Like it's firsthand and I have the documents. Now, there are a bunch of really fascinating, you know, alleged U.S., secret U.S. government documents on UFOs, on alleged alien spacecraft crashes.
They're called the, you know, Majestic documents or the MJ-12 documents. And so, the story is that, you know, that one or two of these craft crashed in 1947 near Roswell, New Mexico. And that sort of begins in, you know, and there's a whole cast of characters that allegedly, you know, including Oppenheimer, were involved in that program. You know, the.
They're called the, you know, Majestic documents or the MJ-12 documents. And so, the story is that, you know, that one or two of these craft crashed in 1947 near Roswell, New Mexico. And that sort of begins in, you know, and there's a whole cast of characters that allegedly, you know, including Oppenheimer, were involved in that program. You know, the.
They're called the, you know, Majestic documents or the MJ-12 documents. And so, the story is that, you know, that one or two of these craft crashed in 1947 near Roswell, New Mexico. And that sort of begins in, you know, and there's a whole cast of characters that allegedly, you know, including Oppenheimer, were involved in that program. You know, the.