Michael Shellenberger
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documents that were created by the us government but leaked to people to ostensibly be able to smoke out double agents or people like you would see them i guess it would trace these documents right like putting dye in the water to find the leak yeah yeah exactly so i mean but the thing is i mean it is like there's like one of them is a handbook of crash retrieval like for like to like that that the soldiers would ostensibly read to retrieve these crash i mean it's
They, the, if they're hoaxes, they're incredible.
They, the, if they're hoaxes, they're incredible.
They, the, if they're hoaxes, they're incredible.
I mean, like, they have, like, they have, like, they have, like, the people, like, they have, I forgot what it's called, but, like, basically, like, a manifest where they show who's checked it out and read it, and they have all these different names, and they've checked those names, and those were, like, real people at those airbases that had these...
I mean, like, they have, like, they have, like, they have, like, the people, like, they have, I forgot what it's called, but, like, basically, like, a manifest where they show who's checked it out and read it, and they have all these different names, and they've checked those names, and those were, like, real people at those airbases that had these...
I mean, like, they have, like, they have, like, they have, like, the people, like, they have, I forgot what it's called, but, like, basically, like, a manifest where they show who's checked it out and read it, and they have all these different names, and they've checked those names, and those were, like, real people at those airbases that had these...
So, and then, you know, there was one document in particular where it was a memo from JFK to the CIA Director Dulles where he says, I want to see you on this particular day. It was like July 62 or 63, I can't remember which. And now again, everyone's like, oh, that's a forgery. It's part of the MJ-12 documents or whatever. It's not real. But then they released the JFK files.
So, and then, you know, there was one document in particular where it was a memo from JFK to the CIA Director Dulles where he says, I want to see you on this particular day. It was like July 62 or 63, I can't remember which. And now again, everyone's like, oh, that's a forgery. It's part of the MJ-12 documents or whatever. It's not real. But then they released the JFK files.
So, and then, you know, there was one document in particular where it was a memo from JFK to the CIA Director Dulles where he says, I want to see you on this particular day. It was like July 62 or 63, I can't remember which. And now again, everyone's like, oh, that's a forgery. It's part of the MJ-12 documents or whatever. It's not real. But then they released the JFK files.
And then sure enough, we see the Dulles calendar and he had met with JFK twice that day. And nobody had known that they had had those meetings until we had that JFK memo and until we had the confirmation of the memo. So that would suggest that at least
And then sure enough, we see the Dulles calendar and he had met with JFK twice that day. And nobody had known that they had had those meetings until we had that JFK memo and until we had the confirmation of the memo. So that would suggest that at least
And then sure enough, we see the Dulles calendar and he had met with JFK twice that day. And nobody had known that they had had those meetings until we had that JFK memo and until we had the confirmation of the memo. So that would suggest that at least
either that document is real, the JFK memo to Dulles, or whoever forged it knew that he had met with Dulles that day and nobody else had known that. So, you know, you'd be sort of like, I guess you could still put it in the, this is why, this is the problem with this issue, is you can still, there's still plausible deniability for a lot, for all these things.
either that document is real, the JFK memo to Dulles, or whoever forged it knew that he had met with Dulles that day and nobody else had known that. So, you know, you'd be sort of like, I guess you could still put it in the, this is why, this is the problem with this issue, is you can still, there's still plausible deniability for a lot, for all these things.
either that document is real, the JFK memo to Dulles, or whoever forged it knew that he had met with Dulles that day and nobody else had known that. So, you know, you'd be sort of like, I guess you could still put it in the, this is why, this is the problem with this issue, is you can still, there's still plausible deniability for a lot, for all these things.
You know, you can make up a reason for why these documents are all counterintelligence passage material. Um, I don't know. That's why I just have to kind of go. I don't know. I mean, I talked to a lot of people and yeah, it's just a lot of secondhand information and the documents are secondhand.
You know, you can make up a reason for why these documents are all counterintelligence passage material. Um, I don't know. That's why I just have to kind of go. I don't know. I mean, I talked to a lot of people and yeah, it's just a lot of secondhand information and the documents are secondhand.
You know, you can make up a reason for why these documents are all counterintelligence passage material. Um, I don't know. That's why I just have to kind of go. I don't know. I mean, I talked to a lot of people and yeah, it's just a lot of secondhand information and the documents are secondhand.
So you kind of go there's like my world of like the Hunter Biden laptop, which still a bunch of my progressive and Democrat friends and family don't believe. You know, they still they still think the Russians were somehow involved. But like I actually have the documents and we can prove what happened there. On the UAP stuff, it's just still just surrounded in mystery.