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Michael Steinberger

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317 total appearances

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The Daily
Inside the Tech Company Powering Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

He and I have had a number of conversations, and he's kind of dismissive of those concerns.

The Daily
Inside the Tech Company Powering Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

He doesn't really want to talk about them.

The Daily
Inside the Tech Company Powering Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

And he deflects them by saying that I and other people just have Trump derangement syndrome.

The Daily
Inside the Tech Company Powering Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

meaning that the people raising these issues, raising these concerns, are just so hostile to Trump, so blinded with rage at Trump, that they can't think rationally about these issues.

The Daily
Inside the Tech Company Powering Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

But I also know that Karp's views on immigration have changed.

The Daily
Inside the Tech Company Powering Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

And this goes back to October 7th.

The Daily
Inside the Tech Company Powering Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

Before October 7th, he saw the immigration issue, he saw the chaos at the border as bad for the Democrats.

The Daily
Inside the Tech Company Powering Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

After October 7th, he also sees the immigration issue and the border as bad for American Jews.

The Daily
Inside the Tech Company Powering Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

Why?

The Daily
Inside the Tech Company Powering Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

Because he thinks it's poking the bear that an uncontrolled border...

The Daily
Inside the Tech Company Powering Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

Lots of illegal immigration is radicalizing Americans against diversity, which he sees as really bad for the Jews.

The Daily
Inside the Tech Company Powering Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

Because if the voters want the border controlled and a democratically elected government doesn't deliver on what they want, they may turn to more radical solutions.

The Daily
Inside the Tech Company Powering Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

The backlash next time may be even more severe and people might turn to a genuine autocrat, which would be, in Karp's view, really bad for the Jews.

The Daily
Inside the Tech Company Powering Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

he pushes back furiously against any suggestion that Trump is an autocrat or a fascist.

The Daily
Inside the Tech Company Powering Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

In a recent interview with Andrew Ross Sorkin of The Times, for instance.

The Daily
Inside the Tech Company Powering Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

He said that any suggestion that Trump is a fascist is just stupid.

The Daily
Inside the Tech Company Powering Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

Yes, we've discussed it and he has admitted to being concerned about it.

The Daily
Inside the Tech Company Powering Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

And I think this goes some way to explaining why he is so ardently behind Donald Trump.

The Daily
Inside the Tech Company Powering Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

Because, again, he fears that if Trump doesn't deliver on his campaign promises, particularly on immigration, that what's going to come after this could be even worse.

The Daily
Inside the Tech Company Powering Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

That a demagogue in the mold of a Fuentes or someone like that could come to power, which Karp thinks would be very bad for the country.