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Michelle Hackman

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502 total appearances

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The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

Democrats are pretty uniformly against the SAVE Act, and Republicans are not uniformly for it.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

And you know the way the Senate math works is that they need 60 votes to pass legislation.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

They barely even have 50 votes right now.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

As of, you know, Tuesday morning, Democrats, Republicans, and the White House were sort of zeroing in on this deal that's not perfect for anyone, as deals often are.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

Basically what it does is it funds all of DHS except the part of ICE that is responsible for the stuff that you and I know ICE to do, basically arresting and deporting immigrants.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

Exactly.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

You nailed it.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

I would say on the margins, but really the big thing to know is that ICE has so much money sloshing around from the Big Beautiful Bill that it doesn't really matter to them.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

And you saw Republicans—I mean, Republicans had this really interesting rhetorical shift where—

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

For weeks, they were talking about the importance of funding ICE.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

We can't leave ICE hanging.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

ICE is so important.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

To suddenly, yesterday, you had John Thune and others saying, we pre-funded ICE.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

Like, that was so smart of us.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

We gave them all the money they need, and we can actually move ahead without getting them any more money.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

You know, as a policy reporter in Washington, I've learned to never make really confident guesses.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

Right.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

But there's a really strong pressure on Congress to try to get this solved before they go on their two-week recess on Friday.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

It's such an interesting moment for ICE.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

You know, we have reported that Trump was pretty unhappy with how DHS handled the huge operation in Minneapolis, that he feels that some of ICE's operations just went too far, looked bad, made him look bad.