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Michelle Hackman

👤 Speaker
502 total appearances

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The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

I think it's a few things.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

I think, first of all, ICE is an agency with a mission, and that is to arrest and deport immigrants in the country illegally.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

And people who work at ICE believe in that mission.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

And particularly now, they believe in this idea that they're supposed to be carrying out a mass deportation for Trump.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

Suddenly, Trump is taking a lot of agents off their normal jobs and having them do airport security.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

I mean, that was like really, really frustrating for people.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

And not to mention, ICE agents don't have any training in airport security, right?

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

They're trained to, like, arrest immigrants.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

They're trained in immigration law.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

Not much, as far as I can tell.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

They're definitely, you know, defending the president's decision to send ICE and saying that it's making America safer, but no signs yet that it has drastically improved the situation.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

It's interesting, right?

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

I mean, that was his framing of it.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

And certainly there were some Democrats who were pretty unhappy about the fact that ICE was being sent to airports because they just find the tactics of ICE so unacceptable.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

To other Democrats, it actually kind of signaled that Trump was realizing what a political crunch these TSA lines were creating for him.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

And so in some ways, I think the Democrats think it brought him to the table rather than vice versa.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

He rejected it at first and pretty publicly.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

He, you know, he told Republicans don't negotiate with Democrats.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

He also said, I'm not signing this unless it also passes with the Save America Act.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

I would say the mood on the Hill yesterday was like people almost laughing that Trump had said that because everyone knew that that was impossible.