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Michelle Hackman

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502 total appearances

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The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

And if you miss multiple paychecks, I mean, the TSA union has been saying people are not surviving, right?

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

They're getting part-time jobs to help pay for themselves.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

And we've seen the so-called call-out rate, the rate that TSA agents are like calling sick to work, extremely high, particularly in some places, like up to 40% of staff.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

Yeah, we're not exactly sure, but there is a curious series of events that went down right before Trump announced the policy.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

So Clay Travis went on Fox News and he basically said, I have a brilliant idea.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

And very soon after that, Trump tweeted out almost the identical idea.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

Yeah, it's a good question.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

So over the summer, Republicans passed this bill.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

It's called the One Big Beautiful Bill Act.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

Exactly.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

Exactly.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

And in that bill, Republicans gave DHS $170 billion basically to carry out the mass deportation.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

A huge amount of that money was allotted to ICE.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

And specifically, it doesn't run on sort of the annual funding cycle the way normal funding does.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

It's like this money that ICE has that expires in 2029, and they can use it whenever.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

And so basically, ICE has been able to continue paying all of its officers, even though their normal funding is shut down.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

First of all, we were told that they were taken completely by surprise.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

They learned the same moment that we all saw Trump's post on Truth Social.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

You know, I reached out to people at ICE over the weekend and they were like a mix of panicked, incredulous, confused, definitely unhappy about the position they've been put in.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

Why?