Michelle Jawando

Do you study why trust and optimism in AI is so much higher in China than it is in the U.S.?

I'm not sure if either of you have come across this book by Dan Wong called Breakneck.

But the premise is basically America is a society of lawyers and China is a society of engineers.

And if you look at the members of the Politburo over the last 50 years, 90% of them are engineers versus 80% of all U.S.

presidents are lawyers.

I know, I was going to say.

I was going to say that.

I mean, his sort of conundrum that he lays out was he lived in China and he left because he found it, you know, he basically found his lack of freedom there was too oppressive.

He couldn't get the books he wanted, et cetera, et cetera.

But you see, there's a difference in the United States.

If you look out of your window year on year, like the newest, most innovative thing you might see is a new coffee shop.

Whereas in China, you see a whole new city emerging, you know, out of your window.

And that, in a sense...

The fact that the Chinese model, which has less freedom for citizens, certainly, nonetheless has top-down imposed this builder vision where people can see the development of technology enriching society versus what people see in the US is a drag on the US's ability to have the national mentality required to...

partners the new technological wave in a way which is builds everyone's prosperity and happiness so it's just a fascinating time when there's a kind of meta conversation even above the grant making thing which is how do you how do you get people to believe they have a stake in the future

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