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Michelle McPhee

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1495 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
5/12/26: Bibi Blames Social Media For Anti-Israel Criticism, Derek Thompson On Billionaire AI Takeover

And if you're certain how this is going to turn out, you're crazy.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
5/12/26: Bibi Blames Social Media For Anti-Israel Criticism, Derek Thompson On Billionaire AI Takeover

That said, I think the basic reason to think that something is a bubble is to boil it down to basics, spending is outrunning revenue, right?

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
5/12/26: Bibi Blames Social Media For Anti-Israel Criticism, Derek Thompson On Billionaire AI Takeover

In the 19th century, in the 1800s, the reason that the railroads were a bubble is that they were taking on debt to build rail that was not used.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
5/12/26: Bibi Blames Social Media For Anti-Israel Criticism, Derek Thompson On Billionaire AI Takeover

And so they would take on debt, they would spend all this money to build out the rail, and they couldn't get money coming in because no one was living at the other end of the railroad.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
5/12/26: Bibi Blames Social Media For Anti-Israel Criticism, Derek Thompson On Billionaire AI Takeover

And as a result, they went belly up over and over and over again in the panics of the 19th century.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
5/12/26: Bibi Blames Social Media For Anti-Israel Criticism, Derek Thompson On Billionaire AI Takeover

Or you look at, say, the dot-com bubble, where a bunch of fiber optic cable was laid in the ground, hoping that demand would materialize.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
5/12/26: Bibi Blames Social Media For Anti-Israel Criticism, Derek Thompson On Billionaire AI Takeover

It didn't materialize on time.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
5/12/26: Bibi Blames Social Media For Anti-Israel Criticism, Derek Thompson On Billionaire AI Takeover

Instead, the Netflixes of the world, the YouTubes of the world that use that fiber optic cable didn't really come online until like 15 years after it was put in the ground.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
5/12/26: Bibi Blames Social Media For Anti-Israel Criticism, Derek Thompson On Billionaire AI Takeover

And as a result, it was a short-term bubble.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
5/12/26: Bibi Blames Social Media For Anti-Israel Criticism, Derek Thompson On Billionaire AI Takeover

So the critical question that we should ask here when we're trying to understand if AI is a bubble is...

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
5/12/26: Bibi Blames Social Media For Anti-Israel Criticism, Derek Thompson On Billionaire AI Takeover

Is the demand, is the revenue going to show up on time?

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
5/12/26: Bibi Blames Social Media For Anti-Israel Criticism, Derek Thompson On Billionaire AI Takeover

Last year, I think the wise answer to that question was no.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
5/12/26: Bibi Blames Social Media For Anti-Israel Criticism, Derek Thompson On Billionaire AI Takeover

This is simply way too much money to materialize before these companies are going to realize that their cash flows are absolutely destroyed by spending all of this money on demand.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
5/12/26: Bibi Blames Social Media For Anti-Israel Criticism, Derek Thompson On Billionaire AI Takeover

data centers and chips and electricity and all of that.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
5/12/26: Bibi Blames Social Media For Anti-Israel Criticism, Derek Thompson On Billionaire AI Takeover

But if you're living in a world where we're watching the fastest growing companies in the history of modern capitalism quadruple their annualized run rate every six months, well, that has to make you less certain that it's a bubble, even if it's moving, say, your overall bubble percentages, as it is for me, from like 55% yes, it's a bubble to like 40% it's a bubble.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
5/12/26: Bibi Blames Social Media For Anti-Israel Criticism, Derek Thompson On Billionaire AI Takeover

So the

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
5/12/26: Bibi Blames Social Media For Anti-Israel Criticism, Derek Thompson On Billionaire AI Takeover

That's basically where I am.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
5/12/26: Bibi Blames Social Media For Anti-Israel Criticism, Derek Thompson On Billionaire AI Takeover

I'm moving a little bit on the margins by trying to answer like a question based on first principles.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
5/12/26: Bibi Blames Social Media For Anti-Israel Criticism, Derek Thompson On Billionaire AI Takeover

Is the revenue going to catch up to spending?

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
5/12/26: Bibi Blames Social Media For Anti-Israel Criticism, Derek Thompson On Billionaire AI Takeover

Last year, I thought no.