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Michelle McPhee

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
902 total appearances

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This Podcast Will Kill You
Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

But it's also before this kind of conceptual, what I would call, revolution in thinking about diseases as stable, uniform entities.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

So this time period, diseases like we've been talking about, they're fluid, they're a group of symptoms.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

You and I could have the same symptoms and get completely different diagnoses because you are in Denver and I am in Boston and you live near a swamp and I don't or whatever.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

You had oatmeal for breakfast, whatever, right?

This Podcast Will Kill You
Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

Like any number of factors.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

we'll be given completely different diagnoses and we'll have completely different treatments.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

So this time period, this pre-modern era, diseases are fluid, they're individual, and they just are symptom-based.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

So they're very subjectively understood.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

And so when I say this is the first modern disease, what I found in doing this research is that this venereal disease looks more like our modern, that kind of post-19th century disease.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

way of thinking about disease.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

And it's not because of some revolutionary idea about disease progression or some discovery of a bacteria or some kind of medical breakthrough.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

It's just because the disease was so shameful and that it's the shame of the disease that leads healers, for example, to look to bodies in ways that look bizarrely modern.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

looking for patterns across bodies in ways that we don't see until much, much later in the 19th century.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

Or because of the shame of shopping for a cure, patients look to over-the-counter cures, these kind of one-size-fits-all treatments that, again, are kind of out of step with time.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

So by looking in these kind of non-medical places, the kind of composite image of the

This Podcast Will Kill You
Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

looks more like a 19th century, kind of like a modern disease than the other diseases of that moment.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

And that's because of the stigma, not because of the science.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

Totally.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

That's why I love studying this time period.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

It's so unfamiliar, and yet the parallels are so mind-blowing.