Special Episode: Dr. Olivia Weisser & The Dreaded Pox

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What were the most feared diseases in early modern London?

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How was syphilis perceived in society during this time?

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He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move.

What sources did Dr. Weiser use to research syphilis?

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Erin Welsh 2:32
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How did people in London seek cures for syphilis?

Erin Welsh 3:37
As always, we love hearing from you all about these book club episodes and about our other episodes, your thoughts, your suggestions. We love it all. The best way to get in touch is through the contact us form on our website or through the submit your firsthand account form, which you can also find on our website. Two last things before moving on to the book of the week, and that is to please rate, review, and subscribe. It truly helps us out. And second, you can now find full video versions of most of our regular season episodes on YouTube. Make sure you're subscribed to the Exactly Right Media YouTube channel so you never miss a new episode drop. Londoners in the 17th and 18th centuries were no strangers to infectious disease.
Erin Welsh 4:24
Plague, tuberculosis, typhus, measles, and smallpox all reared their pestilential heads at some point or another. But alongside these well-known and highly broadcast afflictions lurked another disease, so feared and so stigmatized that it was sometimes known as the secret disease.

What role did gender play in the stigma of syphilis?

Erin Welsh 4:45
We know it today as syphilis. Syphilis, or the pox as it was also called, was among the most feared diagnoses in early modern London. not just because there were no effective cures and it could lead to painful sores or even death. If your pox infection became public knowledge, you would likely face deep stigma and shame. You may even be ostracized from your friends and family. With so much at stake, it's no wonder people went to great lengths to manage or conceal their condition. In The Dreaded Pox, Sex and Disease in Early Modern London, author Dr. Olivia Weiser, associate professor of history at the University of Massachusetts, Boston, peels back the curtain on the most intimate facets of Londoners' lives centuries ago.

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