Michelle Obama

Yeah.

And then got to a better situation, got like a different job and got.

the most ideal schedule you could ask for as like a working comic.

I got a shift that was from 10 a.m.

to 6 p.m.

And from there, I started getting past it, more clubs, because it was a lot like a dam breaking.

Like anything that you do, especially with like artistic,

um artistic pursuits there is a a sort of snowball effect and then someone takes a chance on you it makes someone else more likely to take a chance on you and everything and so that interest sort of begets more interest and so and so i got past it pretty much all the clubs in chicago and that's when i decided to move to new york because i sort of hit a ceiling and everything and

And so I moved with some friends and then we were going out together once again, like doing mics, trying to get on shows and everything.

I did.

I went to college in Louisiana.

Got it.

Yeah.

And you majored in light directing?

Yeah, like light design.

Light design.

No, I didn't think it was a way to get in at all.

I really didn't know what I was doing.

Like, I...

Yeah, what were you thinking?