Mick

So for the, the listener, the viewer, and I don't care if you're seasoned or new, like

How important is communication as an accountability component for your business as well, too?

Or for you as a leader?

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, Matt, you and I both are on this journey of modern leadership, right?

I think that there are a lot of

outdated concepts or cliches that I want your help in debunking a few of these, right?

So I'm going to start with this one.

I hear a lot of leaders today in 2025 say, oh, I've got an open door policy.

My challenge to that is if you're not present, then what are you, right?

Because if you're present for your team, you don't need an open door policy because they see you.

I love your take on that as well.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

A huge fan of your books.

And so I'm going to use my next myth or challenge because your books are very easily read.

And so my next thing is you never have to tell people as a leader how smart you are.

Because to me, that becomes intimidating.

Right.