Mike Baker

That does beg the question, then, where does this go?

I mean, to your point earlier about, you know, sort of this economic battle, are we basically in the business now of hoping the Iranian economy just craters and that's what either brings them to the table or creates so much civil unrest that perhaps the regime loses its grip?

But they kind of do control it, meaning the Iranian regime.

I mean, because, yeah, we're in this position now.

And last time we talked, we talked about the idea of an escort arrangement, right, where we provide safe passage for the vessels.

In reality, that effort lasted, I think, a little bit less than 48 hours.

It's not that we can't do it.

It's just that how long do you do it for?

Because as soon as you stop...

the shipping and insurance industry say okay we're back to square one where we're not moving vessels through um so i i don't know i i know that the white house keeps talking about how we're in control we have all the cards i'm struggling to see that because after all these decades of watching the iranian regime

It's not like they've changed tactics.

They just, they believe they can slow roll this thing to their advantage.

And I think you're right.

They want those frozen assets.

They want sanctions waivers.

And I think they honestly believe they're in a position of strength there where they can get those things.

Did you really actually say sorry about that?

And there's I mean, there's been some indications, the French, the British and others that they're willing to come in and provide support in some capacity.

Once the shooting stops, problem, of course, is the shooting hasn't stopped.

And, you know, and they're kind of acting a little bit like the maritime industry there.