Mike Baker

For the population.

And I know it's easy from outside in the West to say that sort of question.

I'm voicing what I hear from a lot of people who says, well, why aren't they doing it?

And of course, when you go out the street and you get shot and killed or you get detained and then executed, that's a pretty strong message coming from the regime.

So to ask people to go back out in the streets and do that, obviously, that's very tough.

But at some point.

you would expect that the fuse is lit and they're going to say enough is enough.

I guess, again, I told you, Ali Reza, I didn't know if I had a question in there, but run with it.

Yeah.

And I think, yeah, the US has always been inclined to kind of follow this pipe dream idea, because in part, we mirror our values.

And so we always have this hopeful optimism about how other nations are going to react.

And so we've always looked with Iran and said, oh, well, these individuals are moderates, or these individuals are pragmatic, right?

And then we fall down that rabbit hole, imagining that we're dealing with very pragmatic people, not understanding what the underlying nature of the Islamic Republic has always been.

And so we find ourselves in

this in this trap.

I got to be mindful of time here.

But I also want to ask you sort of a last question, which revolves around I don't know whether you've heard about the game of football, but there's something going on called the World Cup just kind of just just started.

Apparently, it's a big deal.

And Iran is in the World Cup.

Now, there's been some recent talk about