Mike Baker

level.

So if you can, in other words, create what appears to be a grassroots movement against something,

Then that is easier to do.

And then you influence the city council somewhere or you influence the state house.

And as an example, we have seen take mining, phosphate mining, for instance.

And, you know, China, Morocco, you know, kind of key countries involved in phosphate mining.

You can't have large scale farming operations without phosphate, which is critical to fertilizers.

So it is in China's best interest, obviously, to be the world's leading producer and to make it more difficult to phosphate mine in the US.

And so we have seen where they've created community projects.

activist groups, you know, local what appear to be local movements in a state such as Florida and try to influence the statehouse and local politics against phosphate mining, which benefits China, because, of course, they they have no concerns there.

And so it benefits their their industry.

This sounds very similar.

Yeah, I do think they think it's actually from a cost perspective.

If you just look at it in a very pragmatic sense, right, and that's what, you know, any Intel service is going to do as well.

Look, what's the cost benefit gain here?

Then, you know, impacting a city council.

you know, that puts roadblocks in the way of whatever the mining operation may be.

Look, we, you know, obviously a lot of it's self-inflicted over the years, depending on what administration's in charge, but our regulatory policies, you know, the Chinese certainly look at that from a mining perspective and think, yes, anything we can do

You know, to to enhance those regulations, to make it even harder to dig anything out of the ground in the US.

Of course, that benefits them, you know, as they've spent years locking up mineral rights around the world.