Mike C-Roc

And I think because in that business, they're so afraid you're going to go somewhere else once you're producing. Well, that's what I was going to say. They kiss your ass. When you started building that. I was respectful, though. Like, I wasn't holding anybody over a bucket. Yeah. I never did that. I had partners and people on my team that did, but I just never operated that way.

And I think because in that business, they're so afraid you're going to go somewhere else once you're producing. Well, that's what I was going to say. They kiss your ass. When you started building that. I was respectful, though. Like, I wasn't holding anybody over a bucket. Yeah. I never did that. I had partners and people on my team that did, but I just never operated that way.

This is why I got out of the mortgage business. It's too commoditized. Toxic, commoditized. I just, and it's not sexy enough for me, but anyway, that's another story. But I just, I couldn't stand it. And the margins like compression and, To me, I just didn't want to be involved with that.

This is why I got out of the mortgage business. It's too commoditized. Toxic, commoditized. I just, and it's not sexy enough for me, but anyway, that's another story. But I just, I couldn't stand it. And the margins like compression and, To me, I just didn't want to be involved with that.

This is why I got out of the mortgage business. It's too commoditized. Toxic, commoditized. I just, and it's not sexy enough for me, but anyway, that's another story. But I just, I couldn't stand it. And the margins like compression and, To me, I just didn't want to be involved with that.

I wanted to be involved with a business that I could separate myself and then nobody could find me down the street.

I wanted to be involved with a business that I could separate myself and then nobody could find me down the street.

I wanted to be involved with a business that I could separate myself and then nobody could find me down the street.

So what was that like? First of all, I never loved it. I'll tell you that right now. When you drop out of college, you're like, okay, I want to be successful. Where can I make money now? And where can I grow? And where can I, you know, stack? It wasn't about where can I be fulfilled? Where can I make impact in the world? It wasn't any of that. It was like, I don't know.

So what was that like? First of all, I never loved it. I'll tell you that right now. When you drop out of college, you're like, okay, I want to be successful. Where can I make money now? And where can I grow? And where can I, you know, stack? It wasn't about where can I be fulfilled? Where can I make impact in the world? It wasn't any of that. It was like, I don't know.

So what was that like? First of all, I never loved it. I'll tell you that right now. When you drop out of college, you're like, okay, I want to be successful. Where can I make money now? And where can I grow? And where can I, you know, stack? It wasn't about where can I be fulfilled? Where can I make impact in the world? It wasn't any of that. It was like, I don't know.

It's not survival, but because it was beyond survival, but I wanted to thrive. Where can I thrive? And I started making money and it started becoming a trap. And I just started to feel like I was not just trapped, but like, this is my life, man. This is the way it's going to have to be. So I'm going to build this. And the further along it got, the more money I made, the more miserable I got.

It's not survival, but because it was beyond survival, but I wanted to thrive. Where can I thrive? And I started making money and it started becoming a trap. And I just started to feel like I was not just trapped, but like, this is my life, man. This is the way it's going to have to be. So I'm going to build this. And the further along it got, the more money I made, the more miserable I got.

It's not survival, but because it was beyond survival, but I wanted to thrive. Where can I thrive? And I started making money and it started becoming a trap. And I just started to feel like I was not just trapped, but like, this is my life, man. This is the way it's going to have to be. So I'm going to build this. And the further along it got, the more money I made, the more miserable I got.

I'd come home, beautiful wife, married 21 years, two healthy kids, house on the water, all that stuff. I'd come home and I'm conflicted. Like, why am I so upset? Like, what is this?

I'd come home, beautiful wife, married 21 years, two healthy kids, house on the water, all that stuff. I'd come home and I'm conflicted. Like, why am I so upset? Like, what is this?

I'd come home, beautiful wife, married 21 years, two healthy kids, house on the water, all that stuff. I'd come home and I'm conflicted. Like, why am I so upset? Like, what is this?

i started to realize like i'm around the wrong people yeah like this is not what i want to do and so hit me when i hit 40 instead of chasing women and uh and getting a sports car it hit me i was like i got to make a change and i just said i can't do this anymore and so i started a wind down process and then created an exit strategy and uh yeah that's where that's where it started but but you know it was did you know what you wanted to do next or did you just you was like i don't know what i'm gonna do but i'm not doing this yeah exactly

i started to realize like i'm around the wrong people yeah like this is not what i want to do and so hit me when i hit 40 instead of chasing women and uh and getting a sports car it hit me i was like i got to make a change and i just said i can't do this anymore and so i started a wind down process and then created an exit strategy and uh yeah that's where that's where it started but but you know it was did you know what you wanted to do next or did you just you was like i don't know what i'm gonna do but i'm not doing this yeah exactly

i started to realize like i'm around the wrong people yeah like this is not what i want to do and so hit me when i hit 40 instead of chasing women and uh and getting a sports car it hit me i was like i got to make a change and i just said i can't do this anymore and so i started a wind down process and then created an exit strategy and uh yeah that's where that's where it started but but you know it was did you know what you wanted to do next or did you just you was like i don't know what i'm gonna do but i'm not doing this yeah exactly