Mike Carruthers

Well, you said a couple of things.

First of all, the average office worker checks their email 77 times a day.

Yep, 77 different times.

So talk about the problem of maximizing, because I do that.

I do this.

Well, explain what that is.

Yeah, what I do is I'll go on Netflix or Amazon Prime, and I'll just keep looking for something better.

I'll find something and think, well, I could watch that, but what could be better?

Maybe there's something better.

And you end up spending more time looking for something better than you actually spend watching a show or a movie.

Well, I think everybody relates to this.

There are things in life where this endless ability to do something paralyzes us, and then we don't do anything, and we spend all our time trying to think of what we're going to do instead of doing it.

I've been talking with David Epstein.

He is a best-selling author, former senior writer for Sports Illustrated, and the name of his book is...

Inside the Box, How Constraints Make Us Better.

And there's a link to his book at Amazon in the show notes.

And David, great to have you here.

Thanks.

Thanks for coming back.

Thanks, Mike.