Mike Corey

So you had this thing going that organized, Gorbachev was a big patron of the Esalen operation inside of Russia.

Yeltsin was actually brought in to California in the 80s.

Again, all on the bankroll, the dime of Lawrence Rockefeller.

I was like, that's fascinating stuff.

So I'm just wondering like, why?

And I'm just, yeah.

So I'm just in my article in 2019, I was just piecing together a lot of the connectoids, you know, and I brought in Tom DeLonge's operation and how a lot of those same people who are working with- Tom DeLonge?

DeLonge.

The Blink-182 dude?

Yeah.

What's his thing called?

Two Stars.

Academy of Arts and Science.

Yeah.

And how certain people who were very important shapers behind the scenes were tied to Jacques Vallée, to Hal Puthoff, you know, and others.

What is your take on Jacques Vallée?

It's okay, you can disparage him.

He won't see it.

I think there might be certain things that he might be overlooking about what he's been engaged or interfacing with, perhaps.

I'd like to presume that he really does honestly mean well.