Mike Corey

That's very interesting.

Yeah.

Yeah, he's a big, I think 200 million was his number of what should be permitted under a healthy, like a healthy homeostatic society that is in harmony, in his idea of harmony with nature, right?

You can Google it, Jacques Cousteau depopulation, 200 million.

I can't say when he said it, but it's something that's pretty well known.

He was not...

I think that part of the idea of a lot of these, and we can jump back to the Atlantis pursuit thing, but when it comes to a lot of the ideals of the radical ecologists like Jacques Cousteau, who I used to really enjoy his nature shows when I was a kid,

is that, again, it comes out of this second law of thermodynamics obsession that is the artifact of extrapolating the heat engine dynamics onto the whole universe that occurred in the end part of the 19th century around the Royal Society.

That's that all systems are entropic, that all systems are inclined towards a heat death.

Entropy goes up.

Yeah, exactly.

Never goes down.

There's never going to be more.

And that's because when you put...

gasoline in a gas tank, that gas tank is not going to produce more gasoline as it burns fuel to make the pistons move and to make it do its function.

Unless you go from an external source to put in from the outside, more gas.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, exactly.

The singularities diminish, the chances for doing interesting things diminish over time to the point of nothing really ever happening that's of interest for them.

So the norm in that type of world is that everything is assumed to be a closed system.