Mike Glover

I just play them in the background.

I'm sleeping.

Get your numbers up.

When when when there was a question in my mind like, oh, that's not acceptable.

Then you asked it, but you asked it in a way that wasn't.

interrogating him.

Yeah, I wasn't trying to interrogate him.

Yeah, and I like how you were able to go back to just being friendly and laughing about things despite what I think is the difficulty in the conversation.

Because it was a difficult conversation.

And maybe if you're not in special operations, it's not difficult because you're like, oh, this is just silly stuff.

But when you're talking about statements to lawyers and to people, that makes me, I'm like, oh my gosh, dude, is this conversation happening?

But I like the transparency, both big credit to Rob for actually being transparent about it, despite I think everybody's identified how difficult that was for him to do.

And if there's any credit, it's to both of you guys for having that difficult conversation, because I don't think anybody else has been able to do that with him.

I think it's immediate trust.

It's validation.

It's like me interviewing a MACV SOG guy.

A lot of MACV SOG guys who interview with civilians, they don't open up about anything.

But I'll ask them tough questions because...

in a similar experience, not similar to Magby Zoll, because nothing is similar to those guys experience, but a similar military experience, they tend to open up more.

I will say also that conversation made me realize, and I think Rob said this a couple of times,