Mike Hudack

I think the first thing is just a mindset shift, which is that it's not necessarily strictly about making time for one at the expense of the other. I think that the best way of understanding this is that one makes you better at the other. I talk to my eight year old all the time about saying and what we're building and why we're building it and decisions that we make. And I'm like, oh,

You know, I'm on a call with a bank in Thailand today and, you know, they all showed up in suits and thank God I put on a collared shirt. You know, it's important to be mindful of people's culture. You know, I don't know. You just have those kind of conversations. One reinforces the other and makes me better at the other, I think.

You know, I'm on a call with a bank in Thailand today and, you know, they all showed up in suits and thank God I put on a collared shirt. You know, it's important to be mindful of people's culture. You know, I don't know. You just have those kind of conversations. One reinforces the other and makes me better at the other, I think.

You know, I'm on a call with a bank in Thailand today and, you know, they all showed up in suits and thank God I put on a collared shirt. You know, it's important to be mindful of people's culture. You know, I don't know. You just have those kind of conversations. One reinforces the other and makes me better at the other, I think.

I do too. I believe in that too. I think that maybe I don't feel like I work less hard for having the family. I think that the kids are a great joy and Caroline is a great joy. And I think we have a really amazing life and I garden. We grow tomatoes and chilies and corn and potatoes and all of this stuff. A lot of what we eat, we grow at home. I'll work. I'll get up.

I do too. I believe in that too. I think that maybe I don't feel like I work less hard for having the family. I think that the kids are a great joy and Caroline is a great joy. And I think we have a really amazing life and I garden. We grow tomatoes and chilies and corn and potatoes and all of this stuff. A lot of what we eat, we grow at home. I'll work. I'll get up.

I do too. I believe in that too. I think that maybe I don't feel like I work less hard for having the family. I think that the kids are a great joy and Caroline is a great joy. And I think we have a really amazing life and I garden. We grow tomatoes and chilies and corn and potatoes and all of this stuff. A lot of what we eat, we grow at home. I'll work. I'll get up.

I'll hang out with the kids from 6.30 or 7 until 8. I'll go to my desk. I'll work for four hours. I'll eat lunch at my desk. I'll go out and garden for 20 minutes to clear my head. I'll come back. The kids will be back at 3.30. I'll hang out with them for like half an hour and then I'll go back to work and then I'll have dinner. You know, I don't know. It just all feels very integrated.

I'll hang out with the kids from 6.30 or 7 until 8. I'll go to my desk. I'll work for four hours. I'll eat lunch at my desk. I'll go out and garden for 20 minutes to clear my head. I'll come back. The kids will be back at 3.30. I'll hang out with them for like half an hour and then I'll go back to work and then I'll have dinner. You know, I don't know. It just all feels very integrated.

I'll hang out with the kids from 6.30 or 7 until 8. I'll go to my desk. I'll work for four hours. I'll eat lunch at my desk. I'll go out and garden for 20 minutes to clear my head. I'll come back. The kids will be back at 3.30. I'll hang out with them for like half an hour and then I'll go back to work and then I'll have dinner. You know, I don't know. It just all feels very integrated.

When was your life most out of whack? Probably my first startup. I don't know. I think you get into these phases where, you know, you become very lopsided. And I've certainly worked on things. I have kind of an obsessive personality. You know, Sling's growing now. We have a channel. We have a Slack channel called Pulse where we see every sign up and we see every transaction.

When was your life most out of whack? Probably my first startup. I don't know. I think you get into these phases where, you know, you become very lopsided. And I've certainly worked on things. I have kind of an obsessive personality. You know, Sling's growing now. We have a channel. We have a Slack channel called Pulse where we see every sign up and we see every transaction.

When was your life most out of whack? Probably my first startup. I don't know. I think you get into these phases where, you know, you become very lopsided. And I've certainly worked on things. I have kind of an obsessive personality. You know, Sling's growing now. We have a channel. We have a Slack channel called Pulse where we see every sign up and we see every transaction.

And then, you know, we have a dashboard that updates regularly with transaction volumes and all this stuff.

And then, you know, we have a dashboard that updates regularly with transaction volumes and all this stuff.

And then, you know, we have a dashboard that updates regularly with transaction volumes and all this stuff.

man i like look at that slack channel every four minutes you know every three minutes and i have to stop myself from doing that and that's the kind of stuff that i think is dangerous that that's what people mistake for grinding or working hard or sleeping on the factory floor you know when you're just doing the same thing over and over again you're looking at you know you're looking at it and you're obsessing about the numbers or something that's very different from

man i like look at that slack channel every four minutes you know every three minutes and i have to stop myself from doing that and that's the kind of stuff that i think is dangerous that that's what people mistake for grinding or working hard or sleeping on the factory floor you know when you're just doing the same thing over and over again you're looking at you know you're looking at it and you're obsessing about the numbers or something that's very different from

man i like look at that slack channel every four minutes you know every three minutes and i have to stop myself from doing that and that's the kind of stuff that i think is dangerous that that's what people mistake for grinding or working hard or sleeping on the factory floor you know when you're just doing the same thing over and over again you're looking at you know you're looking at it and you're obsessing about the numbers or something that's very different from

having a detached view or a semi-attached view to how quickly you're growing, interrogating it, understanding what you need to build and what you need to do differently in order to grow faster. And I think that people often mistake those two types of work for each other, if that makes sense.