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Mike Israetel

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Things are going well, you can crank it up a little bit and get a little bit better gains. It's going to take time. If things are not going so well, you have to optimize to make them go a little better.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

But there's, outside of the basics, nothing you're going to be able to do that is going to be a category leap of results, short of what I estimate in the early 2030s will be the great pharmaceutical renaissance, and then you can just turn myostatin off and get as jacked as you want. Until we get that, realism can be a painful pill to swallow.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

But there's, outside of the basics, nothing you're going to be able to do that is going to be a category leap of results, short of what I estimate in the early 2030s will be the great pharmaceutical renaissance, and then you can just turn myostatin off and get as jacked as you want. Until we get that, realism can be a painful pill to swallow.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

All of those are true. It's not difficult to align your nutrition well. Eat mostly healthy foods. Some junk here and there is totally fine. Getting in enough protein. If you want to be real serious about optimizing your muscle gains, something like a gram per pound of protein per day. So if you weigh 150 pounds, 150 grams of relatively high quality protein.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

All of those are true. It's not difficult to align your nutrition well. Eat mostly healthy foods. Some junk here and there is totally fine. Getting in enough protein. If you want to be real serious about optimizing your muscle gains, something like a gram per pound of protein per day. So if you weigh 150 pounds, 150 grams of relatively high quality protein.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

If it's difficult for you to meet those goals, Amazon sells your bars already, don't they? I don't think they're on Amazon yet.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

If it's difficult for you to meet those goals, Amazon sells your bars already, don't they? I don't think they're on Amazon yet.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

So get you a couple boxes of David bars and put them between meals. That takes care of protein. The other thing is muscle size is philosophically concordant with being bigger. I know that sounds crazy, but muscle's made of stuff. So when someone wants to be 165 pounds jacked at 150 pounds, it's curious how they think that's ever going to happen. Some people just don't eat enough.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

So get you a couple boxes of David bars and put them between meals. That takes care of protein. The other thing is muscle size is philosophically concordant with being bigger. I know that sounds crazy, but muscle's made of stuff. So when someone wants to be 165 pounds jacked at 150 pounds, it's curious how they think that's ever going to happen. Some people just don't eat enough.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

And what I would say is the biggest problem I've seen with what I assume is your target demographic for this podcast is intermittency, lack of consistency. I've had so many clients in the professional realm, older folks, folks that are practicing doctors, lawyers, so on and so forth, tell me, hey, listen, last couple of days, every three or four hours, I've been getting in high protein meals.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

And what I would say is the biggest problem I've seen with what I assume is your target demographic for this podcast is intermittency, lack of consistency. I've had so many clients in the professional realm, older folks, folks that are practicing doctors, lawyers, so on and so forth, tell me, hey, listen, last couple of days, every three or four hours, I've been getting in high protein meals.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

I've been getting good sleep. Dope. See him a week later. You go, hey, how was last weekend? They're like, the parts I remember were fun, I think. Then I was throwing up a lot in the toilet. You realize that they're quote unquote good. It's not beneficial to moralize these things, but they're on track for a few days here and there. And then they fall completely off the wagon for days at a time.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

I've been getting good sleep. Dope. See him a week later. You go, hey, how was last weekend? They're like, the parts I remember were fun, I think. Then I was throwing up a lot in the toilet. You realize that they're quote unquote good. It's not beneficial to moralize these things, but they're on track for a few days here and there. And then they fall completely off the wagon for days at a time.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

That is a surefire way to guarantee that you don't get very good gains, is if you lack consistency. So if you want to get as jacked as possible within the realm of several months' time, seek to eat enough food to get the scale to go up about half a pound per week. So if you're training hard for 12 weeks, you should gain maybe six pounds or so. Consistent six pounds.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

That is a surefire way to guarantee that you don't get very good gains, is if you lack consistency. So if you want to get as jacked as possible within the realm of several months' time, seek to eat enough food to get the scale to go up about half a pound per week. So if you're training hard for 12 weeks, you should gain maybe six pounds or so. Consistent six pounds.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

And if you're eating a gram per pound per day of protein spread into roughly three to four evenly spaced meals, roughly, very roughly, a lot of wiggle room there, that really is all you need to know about nutrition for how to get jacked that covers probably 90% of the variance.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

And if you're eating a gram per pound per day of protein spread into roughly three to four evenly spaced meals, roughly, very roughly, a lot of wiggle room there, that really is all you need to know about nutrition for how to get jacked that covers probably 90% of the variance.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

So I'll tell you this, if you describe to me a scenario where you were training for 12 weeks, you gained seven pounds, almost every day you hit a gram per pound per protein, almost every day it was three or four meals. and you're like, look, I know it's my nutrition that's the problem, I'd be like, it's probably not. It's probably something else.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

So I'll tell you this, if you describe to me a scenario where you were training for 12 weeks, you gained seven pounds, almost every day you hit a gram per pound per protein, almost every day it was three or four meals. and you're like, look, I know it's my nutrition that's the problem, I'd be like, it's probably not. It's probably something else.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

That great thing about what we talked about earlier with Dorian Yates and how he could do so few sets and get so many results is that 80-20 type of rule applies to almost everything else in the human body, including nutrition. So if you're getting enough protein regularly and you're getting enough calories to gain body weight, if you don't get really the muscle gains that you were expecting,