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Mike Israetel

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The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

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The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Hugely genetically variable. And in addition to that, even if I'm not making any now, within several weeks, my testosterone production would likely resume. Now, if I had balls the size of capers, yeah, you'd be like, what's the uphill battle? Most people can resume normal testosterone production after the cessation of anabolic androgenic steroids. But not all. Maybe like 90-10.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Hugely genetically variable. And in addition to that, even if I'm not making any now, within several weeks, my testosterone production would likely resume. Now, if I had balls the size of capers, yeah, you'd be like, what's the uphill battle? Most people can resume normal testosterone production after the cessation of anabolic androgenic steroids. But not all. Maybe like 90-10.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

You don't want to be that 10, which is why it's a huge thing for me to say. Don't just start steroids or TRT without a real long hard think about what the hell you want out of life, especially if you have yet to have children but want children. Because I know people, personally, who've done one of two things.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

You don't want to be that 10, which is why it's a huge thing for me to say. Don't just start steroids or TRT without a real long hard think about what the hell you want out of life, especially if you have yet to have children but want children. Because I know people, personally, who've done one of two things.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

I know people who, on full steroid cycles, during that time, fathered children I now call my friends. They're real humans I can point to and be like, you're a steroid baby. They're freaky. They're getting pissed. I'm kidding. Obviously doesn't go into the germline cells. The other thing is I know some people who you blasted for a long time cannot have children, tried everything.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

I know people who, on full steroid cycles, during that time, fathered children I now call my friends. They're real humans I can point to and be like, you're a steroid baby. They're freaky. They're getting pissed. I'm kidding. Obviously doesn't go into the germline cells. The other thing is I know some people who you blasted for a long time cannot have children, tried everything.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

It's just not in the cards. Their spermatogenesis is just gone.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

It's just not in the cards. Their spermatogenesis is just gone.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

I would look into it. I think that most of the stuff you hear about how the comeback is difficult is from people for whom the comeback is difficult. And having been in the bodybuilding powerlifting space for a long time, most people come off and they're just normal after. Almost everyone I know that's come off completely is just normal after.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

I would look into it. I think that most of the stuff you hear about how the comeback is difficult is from people for whom the comeback is difficult. And having been in the bodybuilding powerlifting space for a long time, most people come off and they're just normal after. Almost everyone I know that's come off completely is just normal after.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Which is why if you have a natural bodybuilding federation that allows you to compete. After you've used steroids. It's a crock of shit. Yeah.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Which is why if you have a natural bodybuilding federation that allows you to compete. After you've used steroids. It's a crock of shit. Yeah.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Now, let me back that up. If that's the explicit rule of the federation, I don't like that I call it a natural federation. I respect every athlete and I think it's wonderful that they're doing what they're doing. And in a sense, it's a very different category. So it's cool.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Now, let me back that up. If that's the explicit rule of the federation, I don't like that I call it a natural federation. I respect every athlete and I think it's wonderful that they're doing what they're doing. And in a sense, it's a very different category. So it's cool.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

If I was making a natural bodybuilding federation myself, you would have to sign paperwork that says I've never used anabolic steroids because the literature we have now on how much muscle you gain and keep forever is unequivocal. We even have mechanistic data on how it happens.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

If I was making a natural bodybuilding federation myself, you would have to sign paperwork that says I've never used anabolic steroids because the literature we have now on how much muscle you gain and keep forever is unequivocal. We even have mechanistic data on how it happens.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Your satellite cells that are incorporated into your musculature, which are kind of dormant and then they get in and then they grow big. We have no reason to believe they ever leave. It's like letting your aunt come live with you for a few weeks and like, where's Aunt Linda's here for forever? Here's our children. It's like that.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Your satellite cells that are incorporated into your musculature, which are kind of dormant and then they get in and then they grow big. We have no reason to believe they ever leave. It's like letting your aunt come live with you for a few weeks and like, where's Aunt Linda's here for forever? Here's our children. It's like that.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

So having done higher doses of androgens ever for weeks or longer on end can give you a higher level of muscularity, especially only if you've gone beyond your natural limit. People generally can gain only so much naturally and only so much on steroids. Steroids are not unlimited for gains.