Mike Israetel

So having done higher doses of androgens ever for weeks or longer on end can give you a higher level of muscularity, especially only if you've gone beyond your natural limit. People generally can gain only so much naturally and only so much on steroids. Steroids are not unlimited for gains.

If you were going to ever have 160 pounds of fat-free mass and you went from 150 to 160 with steroids, but you could have gotten there and would take you three times longer without steroids, then the inherent advantage you don't have because you just got there faster. But if you got to 180 on steroids...

If you were going to ever have 160 pounds of fat-free mass and you went from 150 to 160 with steroids, but you could have gotten there and would take you three times longer without steroids, then the inherent advantage you don't have because you just got there faster. But if you got to 180 on steroids...

and then you quit all the steroids and now you're back down to 170, you could walk around and maintain that 170 on a normal secretion of testosterone or normal TRT. You would have never been able to do that without the steroids. So it's a permanent advantage. If you've ever been hypermuscular from steroids, you will probably never be as small as you would have normally been ever again.

and then you quit all the steroids and now you're back down to 170, you could walk around and maintain that 170 on a normal secretion of testosterone or normal TRT. You would have never been able to do that without the steroids. So it's a permanent advantage. If you've ever been hypermuscular from steroids, you will probably never be as small as you would have normally been ever again.

That's a big deal, very big deal in Olympic sports because you can just kind of hide out. Don't get into the doping pool. Crank it. Get into the doping pool. You drug free, but you have muscle that'll never leave you. That's a massive advantage. Yeah, it sure sounds like it. Not that anyone ever does that.

That's a big deal, very big deal in Olympic sports because you can just kind of hide out. Don't get into the doping pool. Crank it. Get into the doping pool. You drug free, but you have muscle that'll never leave you. That's a massive advantage. Yeah, it sure sounds like it. Not that anyone ever does that.

So my calculation has many fold variables that go into it. Some of them include my blood work. I get regular blood work. I always have. I did it before I got on. I did it during. I still do it all the time. It would be funny if I croaked in a few weeks and then you released the podcast. This was going to sound hilarious. It's all statistics and probability. Please do release it though.

So my calculation has many fold variables that go into it. Some of them include my blood work. I get regular blood work. I always have. I did it before I got on. I did it during. I still do it all the time. It would be funny if I croaked in a few weeks and then you released the podcast. This was going to sound hilarious. It's all statistics and probability. Please do release it though.

I've got bad genetics for all sorts of things, but I have damn good genetics for health resilience. So I've never actually had blood work a single time that was like, do you need to stop? The last time I had blood work, I was on... 1500 milligrams total. Gnarly stuff. Trenbolone acetate. The whole works. My lipids, my overall total cholesterol was 79 or something. Total cholesterol? Yeah.

I've got bad genetics for all sorts of things, but I have damn good genetics for health resilience. So I've never actually had blood work a single time that was like, do you need to stop? The last time I had blood work, I was on... 1500 milligrams total. Gnarly stuff. Trenbolone acetate. The whole works. My lipids, my overall total cholesterol was 79 or something. Total cholesterol? Yeah.

Now, mind you, I'm at like 7% body fat, and leanness is a humongous variable for health. Humongous. I can get into all that if you want, but humongous. I'm on blood pressure medication.

Now, mind you, I'm at like 7% body fat, and leanness is a humongous variable for health. Humongous. I can get into all that if you want, but humongous. I'm on blood pressure medication.

Absolutely. Humongous variable that I've always been controlling. My wife is a medical doctor, so we don't play games. Always checking the blood pressure, always making sure it's on the low end.

Absolutely. Humongous variable that I've always been controlling. My wife is a medical doctor, so we don't play games. Always checking the blood pressure, always making sure it's on the low end.

I'm currently on 250 milligrams a week.

I'm currently on 250 milligrams a week.

And that's my sports TRT, we call it. Super TRT.

And that's my sports TRT, we call it. Super TRT.

I took double the blood pressure medication roughly at that dose. And I titrated it so that it would always be below the normative values for best health, 120 over 70, that sort of thing. When I took the most drugs, I was almost always in a fat loss phase because you're just not eating much food and you're very lean and you're doing lots of physical activity.