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Mike Israetel

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The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Imagine a place where you can run your brain at 1000x normal speed and live like a thousand lives in the span of a regular human lifetime.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

You're a vampire in one of them, you're a superman in another one, or you're living a whole lifespan where you're totally unaware of that you made yourself forget, and then you wake up after you die and you're like, holy shit, this is all a game, oh my god, oh my god, and I mean I remember that I played that as a game. You could do all of that for forever.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

You're a vampire in one of them, you're a superman in another one, or you're living a whole lifespan where you're totally unaware of that you made yourself forget, and then you wake up after you die and you're like, holy shit, this is all a game, oh my god, oh my god, and I mean I remember that I played that as a game. You could do all of that for forever.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Who's going to look at reality and then go, I'm good on that. I want to live in Lord of the Rings fantasy. A lot of people, a lot of people play World of Warcraft right now for most of their waking life. Anyway, that's going to be a choice. Now, some people aren't going to want to do that. And that's total respect. But also our real world is going to change. I mean, look at modern Austin, Texas.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Who's going to look at reality and then go, I'm good on that. I want to live in Lord of the Rings fantasy. A lot of people, a lot of people play World of Warcraft right now for most of their waking life. Anyway, that's going to be a choice. Now, some people aren't going to want to do that. And that's total respect. But also our real world is going to change. I mean, look at modern Austin, Texas.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

It's like kind of an idyllic place if you think about it compared to like 1900 London. God, there's no air pollution. There's no crime, relatively speaking, et cetera, et cetera. So in the 2030s, here's another little gem of optimism. The era of robotics is coming. If the average robot...

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

It's like kind of an idyllic place if you think about it compared to like 1900 London. God, there's no air pollution. There's no crime, relatively speaking, et cetera, et cetera. So in the 2030s, here's another little gem of optimism. The era of robotics is coming. If the average robot...

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

costs a fifth less of inputs to sustain per year, maintenance, et cetera, than a human, but produces roughly the same output as a human. And this is a sick joke because robotics will exceed human production very quickly. You can make as many robots as you want, and that multiplies the GDP linearly with each robot. Elon Musk has spoken about this.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

costs a fifth less of inputs to sustain per year, maintenance, et cetera, than a human, but produces roughly the same output as a human. And this is a sick joke because robotics will exceed human production very quickly. You can make as many robots as you want, and that multiplies the GDP linearly with each robot. Elon Musk has spoken about this.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

There's a potential for robots in the 2030s or 40s to be 10 to 1 to the average human. You institute a 10% tax on the robotics industry and no human ever has to work again. Universal basic income completely solved. So then what will humans do? They're going to do a lot of stuff. Some people will engage in productive activities.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

There's a potential for robots in the 2030s or 40s to be 10 to 1 to the average human. You institute a 10% tax on the robotics industry and no human ever has to work again. Universal basic income completely solved. So then what will humans do? They're going to do a lot of stuff. Some people will engage in productive activities.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Some people will live their awesome lives in the reality of the physical world. And a lot of people incrementally more and more are going to plug in to increasingly more well-simulated virtual reality and spend a lot of time over there. I think the kind of stuff that's coming in the future is either like World War III and everything dies, the machines choose to kill us, which would be really bad.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Some people will live their awesome lives in the reality of the physical world. And a lot of people incrementally more and more are going to plug in to increasingly more well-simulated virtual reality and spend a lot of time over there. I think the kind of stuff that's coming in the future is either like World War III and everything dies, the machines choose to kill us, which would be really bad.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

It won't be Terminators with laser guns. They won't be anthropomorphic looking. Or something that is so sublime we can barely understand it. And I will couch this with one other thing. If you describe to the average person in 1300s England... how the average American lives today, they would be like, what the hell are you talking about? Like, kings don't live like this.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

It won't be Terminators with laser guns. They won't be anthropomorphic looking. Or something that is so sublime we can barely understand it. And I will couch this with one other thing. If you describe to the average person in 1300s England... how the average American lives today, they would be like, what the hell are you talking about? Like, kings don't live like this.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Like, oh yeah, like Uber Eats.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Like, oh yeah, like Uber Eats.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

And I think that your approach to your health and wellness has been infinitely more wise than my own. You're hedging to say, look, maybe crazy 2040 stuff. It'll be we're all immortal or whatever. We're machines. Dope. But I want to give myself the best possible chance to make it to that. So everything that I do is longevity-oriented? I think everyone should be living like that.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

And I think that your approach to your health and wellness has been infinitely more wise than my own. You're hedging to say, look, maybe crazy 2040 stuff. It'll be we're all immortal or whatever. We're machines. Dope. But I want to give myself the best possible chance to make it to that. So everything that I do is longevity-oriented? I think everyone should be living like that.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Because look, if in 2032 they solve reverse aging, a few months later all of us take the pill, we're all 22 biologically, we can all have the biggest fucking party of all time, it'll be great. But you might not make it to that party if you're like throwing back Cheetos right now.