Mike Israetel

Because look, if in 2032 they solve reverse aging, a few months later all of us take the pill, we're all 22 biologically, we can all have the biggest fucking party of all time, it'll be great. But you might not make it to that party if you're like throwing back Cheetos right now.

In my own personal mild defense, although it's not the right term, yeah, I used some drugs, but I was incredibly health conscious in that context and still am in my current context. So if I don't make it to that era, someone from that era might watch this and be like, oh, this guy saw it coming. We're not.

In my own personal mild defense, although it's not the right term, yeah, I used some drugs, but I was incredibly health conscious in that context and still am in my current context. So if I don't make it to that era, someone from that era might watch this and be like, oh, this guy saw it coming. We're not.

But I think your approach of, listen, back in the 1940s, there's a serious discussion of quality of life versus longevity. You tried to sell someone no more beer, no more cigarettes. Like, why? So I could live 20 years longer? For what? Yeah, exactly. So I could work in a fucking factory 20 years longer and grind my fingers off on the stamping press? You're like, okay, noted.

But I think your approach of, listen, back in the 1940s, there's a serious discussion of quality of life versus longevity. You tried to sell someone no more beer, no more cigarettes. Like, why? So I could live 20 years longer? For what? Yeah, exactly. So I could work in a fucking factory 20 years longer and grind my fingers off on the stamping press? You're like, okay, noted.

Here are your cigarettes and beer back. In the mid-2020s, legitimate thinkers in the space

Here are your cigarettes and beer back. In the mid-2020s, legitimate thinkers in the space

Are talking about longevity escape velocity are talking about true immortality Not capital i immortality lowercase I like you still get hit by a bus an asteroid could still break the earth into pieces But like yeah like brain in the cloud type of stuff now is probably the most pertinent time We're reading your book consuming your material listening to your stuff and your experts that you have on is the smartest thing especially people in their 40s and 50s and 60s could do because

Are talking about longevity escape velocity are talking about true immortality Not capital i immortality lowercase I like you still get hit by a bus an asteroid could still break the earth into pieces But like yeah like brain in the cloud type of stuff now is probably the most pertinent time We're reading your book consuming your material listening to your stuff and your experts that you have on is the smartest thing especially people in their 40s and 50s and 60s could do because

Look, if you're in your 20s, whatever, rock on. If you're in your 40s, 50s, 60s, you might make it to this paradise stuff in the 2030s, but barely, and tell yourself, thank God I ate some friggin' broccoli and went to bed at 9pm. Whereas an alternative, you could have had one too many margaritas and Cheetos and not made it that far.

Look, if you're in your 20s, whatever, rock on. If you're in your 40s, 50s, 60s, you might make it to this paradise stuff in the 2030s, but barely, and tell yourself, thank God I ate some friggin' broccoli and went to bed at 9pm. Whereas an alternative, you could have had one too many margaritas and Cheetos and not made it that far.

Up until a few years ago, I thought I was going to have kids and I was very aware of all the trade-offs and I played it the exact same way. So probably not. It's all statistics. Again, I could die tomorrow. I could never die. Who knows anything between.

Up until a few years ago, I thought I was going to have kids and I was very aware of all the trade-offs and I played it the exact same way. So probably not. It's all statistics. Again, I could die tomorrow. I could never die. Who knows anything between.

I'm statistically likely with my current exposure and no increase in biotechnology throughput to croak in my 70s or 80s, probably more like 70s, maybe late 60s.

I'm statistically likely with my current exposure and no increase in biotechnology throughput to croak in my 70s or 80s, probably more like 70s, maybe late 60s.

Realistic worst case.

Realistic worst case.

Very heuristically. But I'm familiar with what kind of cycles other people have done, what kind of body weights they've gotten to, body fats, health metrics. And I've seen and noted and heard of lots of people in our industry look like most bodybuilders from Arnold's era are still ticking. And you attribute that to the fact that they were just using a fraction of the drugs.

Very heuristically. But I'm familiar with what kind of cycles other people have done, what kind of body weights they've gotten to, body fats, health metrics. And I've seen and noted and heard of lots of people in our industry look like most bodybuilders from Arnold's era are still ticking. And you attribute that to the fact that they were just using a fraction of the drugs.

It's by no means clear they were using a fraction of the drugs. Some of that's true. Some of it's not true. Some of those guys were cranking it. Yeah. It does not take a rocket scientist to realize that when you take more of something and grow more muscle, you're going to do a lot of it. They were using fewer drugs on average, but with many exceptions.