Mike Israetel

They're dealing with the same genetics that got them fat, and they have excess fat cells that scream hunger signaling into the ether all the time. So the idea that bodybuilding is about earning your keep and grinding and suffering is true, but we already use enhancement in so many different ways. Why not use enhancement in this other way?

I never gotten a clear answer on that because most of the people that espouse such opinions don't have the patience or intellectual capacity to deal with such issues. Just something to scroll by on Instagram and go, note it, scrolling onto the next thing or turning my phone off and flushing it down the toilet.

I never gotten a clear answer on that because most of the people that espouse such opinions don't have the patience or intellectual capacity to deal with such issues. Just something to scroll by on Instagram and go, note it, scrolling onto the next thing or turning my phone off and flushing it down the toilet.

Yeah, most of the people that are morally panicking will tell you why. Most of what they say is that you have to earn your fitness. And if you are lazy and you just take a pill, and you lose all the weight, you haven't addressed the root cause of the issue, which is your poor diet. And there's something to say there, but I don't understand much further about their own logic.

Yeah, most of the people that are morally panicking will tell you why. Most of what they say is that you have to earn your fitness. And if you are lazy and you just take a pill, and you lose all the weight, you haven't addressed the root cause of the issue, which is your poor diet. And there's something to say there, but I don't understand much further about their own logic.

I would say they're not thinking a lot. They're just having a lot of feelings. If you talk to most people about politics, you'll realize that most people are not geopolitical strategists or econometricians. They just feel a lot.

I would say they're not thinking a lot. They're just having a lot of feelings. If you talk to most people about politics, you'll realize that most people are not geopolitical strategists or econometricians. They just feel a lot.

And so this is one of these things where people have a lot of feelings, but if they pulled it back and actually logic through it, they would conclude that like, oh, these modern anorectic drugs are tools to accomplish something. And whatever tools you use that make sense for you. should be a valid consideration for the goal.

And so this is one of these things where people have a lot of feelings, but if they pulled it back and actually logic through it, they would conclude that like, oh, these modern anorectic drugs are tools to accomplish something. And whatever tools you use that make sense for you. should be a valid consideration for the goal.

But a lot of people use physical fitness, especially external, as a proxy for conscientiousness, the ability to organize your life, to delay gratification, so on and so forth. And the reality is that probably the two biggest predictors of how obese someone is are your genetic hunger drive and your degree of conscientiousness.

But a lot of people use physical fitness, especially external, as a proxy for conscientiousness, the ability to organize your life, to delay gratification, so on and so forth. And the reality is that probably the two biggest predictors of how obese someone is are your genetic hunger drive and your degree of conscientiousness.

So the only thing that the GLPs eliminate as a category of problem is the hunger drive. They eliminate it, but they do a great job, reduce it substantially. So now we're left with people that are leaner, some of whom just have average conscientiousness, but now low food drive, and now they're leaner.

So the only thing that the GLPs eliminate as a category of problem is the hunger drive. They eliminate it, but they do a great job, reduce it substantially. So now we're left with people that are leaner, some of whom just have average conscientiousness, but now low food drive, and now they're leaner.

And this especially upsets people that have lost weight themselves on their own, and they took a certain moral worthiness, a certain gold star on their chest for it. Say, I was conscientious and willful enough to do this. And to those people, they're absolutely correct. Like what they did was monumental and ultra impressive.

And this especially upsets people that have lost weight themselves on their own, and they took a certain moral worthiness, a certain gold star on their chest for it. Say, I was conscientious and willful enough to do this. And to those people, they're absolutely correct. Like what they did was monumental and ultra impressive.

And they feel sort of ripped off because other people are now doing it by just like taking a weekly injection. But that belief in yourself, that flexing of your conscientious muscle that you did, It's your benefit for yourself to keep. And the other way to think about it is if you had to lose 20 pounds and really focus yourself to do it and to keep the weight off, you're focused all the time.

And they feel sort of ripped off because other people are now doing it by just like taking a weekly injection. But that belief in yourself, that flexing of your conscientious muscle that you did, It's your benefit for yourself to keep. And the other way to think about it is if you had to lose 20 pounds and really focus yourself to do it and to keep the weight off, you're focused all the time.

What you could do is take an anorectic drug, GLP-1, for example, and now you don't have to try as hard to limit yourself because your food, your natural, your appetite is like normal. And you can take all of that bandwidth of willpower and effort and conscientiousness and apply it to something else. business, family life.

What you could do is take an anorectic drug, GLP-1, for example, and now you don't have to try as hard to limit yourself because your food, your natural, your appetite is like normal. And you can take all of that bandwidth of willpower and effort and conscientiousness and apply it to something else. business, family life.

If you have to diet hard enough to lose a bunch of weight, your bandwidth for your work, your bandwidth for family, your bandwidth for enjoying your life have to go down. Otherwise, you're just not dieting hard enough.