Mike Israetel

Yes, I'm in that camp as well. There are at least two things those folks aren't considering. Thing number one is that if you can achieve a certain level of body fat through caloric restriction without GLP-1s, When you use any given dose of GLP-1s to reduce your hunger, you get two things out of that. One is now you can push to even more exotically lean levels, which you should be.

We're not trying to race to the same point. The destination changes. If you can get some faint glute striations and win a few shows without GLPs, maybe you can get completely stripped out of your mind with them. It's just as hard. You're just as hungry. But just as hungry at 3% body fat is a very different look than just as hungry at 6%. One is GLP-enhanced, one is not.

We're not trying to race to the same point. The destination changes. If you can get some faint glute striations and win a few shows without GLPs, maybe you can get completely stripped out of your mind with them. It's just as hard. You're just as hungry. But just as hungry at 3% body fat is a very different look than just as hungry at 6%. One is GLP-enhanced, one is not.

That's a big deal to remember. The other thing is you have to deal with side effects of GLPs. They give you heartburn. There is a certain amount of food focus they don't eliminate. Watching TV shows and watching people on them eat tasty foods when you're in prep is not as difficult because you're not physiologically as hungry, but you still have cravings.

That's a big deal to remember. The other thing is you have to deal with side effects of GLPs. They give you heartburn. There is a certain amount of food focus they don't eliminate. Watching TV shows and watching people on them eat tasty foods when you're in prep is not as difficult because you're not physiologically as hungry, but you still have cravings.

Cravings are lower, but they're still there. And you still dream about food and the whole gamut. It's not complete kiboshing of hunger. Now, I hope one day very soon we'll achieve that and that'll be a miraculous thing that'll save, I don't know, hundreds of millions of people from the obesity epidemic. Oh, footnote in history. But that'll be cool.

Cravings are lower, but they're still there. And you still dream about food and the whole gamut. It's not complete kiboshing of hunger. Now, I hope one day very soon we'll achieve that and that'll be a miraculous thing that'll save, I don't know, hundreds of millions of people from the obesity epidemic. Oh, footnote in history. But that'll be cool.

And then your job will be like, if you have more bandwidth because shit is easier, just push your conditioning further. Get even leaner. That's a big deal that people seem to forget. The other deal is there is a preposterous amount of assuming that work and diligence are the big variables that separate bodybuilders.

And then your job will be like, if you have more bandwidth because shit is easier, just push your conditioning further. Get even leaner. That's a big deal that people seem to forget. The other deal is there is a preposterous amount of assuming that work and diligence are the big variables that separate bodybuilders.

Usually that assumption is made by people with elite genetics, and it's just not true. My jujitsu coach, a gentleman named Mr. Will Starks, phenomenal professional MMA athlete, Willie eats a very clean diet, very healthy diet, but he has tons of freebies, potato chips, pizza here and there, no big deal. He trains for mixed martial arts. He's a pro. He has glute striations.

Usually that assumption is made by people with elite genetics, and it's just not true. My jujitsu coach, a gentleman named Mr. Will Starks, phenomenal professional MMA athlete, Willie eats a very clean diet, very healthy diet, but he has tons of freebies, potato chips, pizza here and there, no big deal. He trains for mixed martial arts. He's a pro. He has glute striations.

He walks around and lives his life at 7% body fat. That's just how he exists in the world. It would take him one cycle of training to turn pro. He's drug-free. If you look at him in the gym and if he put on some posing trunks and you looked at his glutes, you ask some people in the gym, what's that all about? They'd be like, man, it must take a lot of hard work. Bullshit, took no work at all.

He walks around and lives his life at 7% body fat. That's just how he exists in the world. It would take him one cycle of training to turn pro. He's drug-free. If you look at him in the gym and if he put on some posing trunks and you looked at his glutes, you ask some people in the gym, what's that all about? They'd be like, man, it must take a lot of hard work. Bullshit, took no work at all.

Now, he trains his ass off in MMA. But how many MMA guys do you see with strident glutes? It's almost not a thing. So you would look at that and be like, let's say he diets for six weeks and actually starts resistance training for hypertrophy for the first time in his life, I might add, in his mid-30s. This is our plan for Will once he's ready.

Now, he trains his ass off in MMA. But how many MMA guys do you see with strident glutes? It's almost not a thing. So you would look at that and be like, let's say he diets for six weeks and actually starts resistance training for hypertrophy for the first time in his life, I might add, in his mid-30s. This is our plan for Will once he's ready.

He's going to turn drug-free pro his first or second show, no problem. And people are going to go, man, I must have taken a lot of work. And he'd be like, ha, well, actually, not really. And so if you have someone on stage against him who takes second place, but they started their diet at 20% body fat, and their diet took 18 weeks, who worked harder?

He's going to turn drug-free pro his first or second show, no problem. And people are going to go, man, I must have taken a lot of work. And he'd be like, ha, well, actually, not really. And so if you have someone on stage against him who takes second place, but they started their diet at 20% body fat, and their diet took 18 weeks, who worked harder?

People would tell you the guy was trying to glutes it, and they would be fucking wrong, wrong, wrong. So when you look at people using GLPs... You assume everyone has kind of decent genetics. That's not true. And people who have been fatter before have a much harder time getting leaner for a bunch of different reasons.

People would tell you the guy was trying to glutes it, and they would be fucking wrong, wrong, wrong. So when you look at people using GLPs... You assume everyone has kind of decent genetics. That's not true. And people who have been fatter before have a much harder time getting leaner for a bunch of different reasons.

They're dealing with the same genetics that got them fat, and they have excess fat cells that scream hunger signaling into the ether all the time. So the idea that bodybuilding is about earning your keep and grinding and suffering is true, but we already use enhancement in so many different ways. Why not use enhancement in this other way?