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Mike Krieger

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

I think it's very use case dependent. And like what the kind of question that we drove our Instagram team insane with is we would always ask them like, well, what problem are you solving? And like, general like text box interface that can answer any question is like a technology and like the beginnings of a product, but it's not like a precise problem that you are solving.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

And I think grounding yourself in that maybe helps you get to that answer, which is like if what you're trying to build, for example, like I use cloud all the time for like code assistance, like that is solving a direct problem, which is I'm trying to like ramp up on product management here and like get our products like underway and like also like work on a bunch of different things.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

And I think grounding yourself in that maybe helps you get to that answer, which is like if what you're trying to build, for example, like I use cloud all the time for like code assistance, like that is solving a direct problem, which is I'm trying to like ramp up on product management here and like get our products like underway and like also like work on a bunch of different things.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

And I think grounding yourself in that maybe helps you get to that answer, which is like if what you're trying to build, for example, like I use cloud all the time for like code assistance, like that is solving a direct problem, which is I'm trying to like ramp up on product management here and like get our products like underway and like also like work on a bunch of different things.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

And to the extent that I have any time to be in like pure build mode, I want to be really efficient on it. Like that very directly connected problem and like total game changer, just see myself as a builder. And like, it lets me focus on different pieces as well. I'm talking to somebody right before this call as well.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

And to the extent that I have any time to be in like pure build mode, I want to be really efficient on it. Like that very directly connected problem and like total game changer, just see myself as a builder. And like, it lets me focus on different pieces as well. I'm talking to somebody right before this call as well.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

And to the extent that I have any time to be in like pure build mode, I want to be really efficient on it. Like that very directly connected problem and like total game changer, just see myself as a builder. And like, it lets me focus on different pieces as well. I'm talking to somebody right before this call as well.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

Like they are now using cloud a bunch to soften up or otherwise change their like long missives on Slack before they send them. And so like this like human editor kind of piece. Like, that solves their, like, kind of immediate problem. Maybe they need to, like, tone down and, like, take a, you know, chill out a little bit before sending a Slack.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

Like they are now using cloud a bunch to soften up or otherwise change their like long missives on Slack before they send them. And so like this like human editor kind of piece. Like, that solves their, like, kind of immediate problem. Maybe they need to, like, tone down and, like, take a, you know, chill out a little bit before sending a Slack.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

Like they are now using cloud a bunch to soften up or otherwise change their like long missives on Slack before they send them. And so like this like human editor kind of piece. Like, that solves their, like, kind of immediate problem. Maybe they need to, like, tone down and, like, take a, you know, chill out a little bit before sending a Slack.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

But, like, I think, again, grounding it in use, because that's what I'm trying to really focus on our products here. It's, like, if you try to boil the ocean, I think you end up in actually really adjacent to these kinds of, like, most ethical questions that you raise, which is, like, if you're an anything box, then, like, everything is, like, you know, potentially complicated.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

But, like, I think, again, grounding it in use, because that's what I'm trying to really focus on our products here. It's, like, if you try to boil the ocean, I think you end up in actually really adjacent to these kinds of, like, most ethical questions that you raise, which is, like, if you're an anything box, then, like, everything is, like, you know, potentially complicated.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

But, like, I think, again, grounding it in use, because that's what I'm trying to really focus on our products here. It's, like, if you try to boil the ocean, I think you end up in actually really adjacent to these kinds of, like, most ethical questions that you raise, which is, like, if you're an anything box, then, like, everything is, like, you know, potentially complicated.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

either under threat or adjacent or problematic. I think there's real value to saying, all right, what are the things we want to be known to be good for? I'd argue today that the product actually does serve some of those well enough that it's like, I'm happy it exists and I think folks are in general.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

either under threat or adjacent or problematic. I think there's real value to saying, all right, what are the things we want to be known to be good for? I'd argue today that the product actually does serve some of those well enough that it's like, I'm happy it exists and I think folks are in general.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

either under threat or adjacent or problematic. I think there's real value to saying, all right, what are the things we want to be known to be good for? I'd argue today that the product actually does serve some of those well enough that it's like, I'm happy it exists and I think folks are in general.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

Then I think over time, if you look at things like writing assistance more broadly for novel length writing, I think the jury's still out on that. My wife was doing a prototype version of that. I've talked to other folks. I think our models are quite good, but they're not great at keeping track of characters over book length pieces or reproducing particular things.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

Then I think over time, if you look at things like writing assistance more broadly for novel length writing, I think the jury's still out on that. My wife was doing a prototype version of that. I've talked to other folks. I think our models are quite good, but they're not great at keeping track of characters over book length pieces or reproducing particular things.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

Then I think over time, if you look at things like writing assistance more broadly for novel length writing, I think the jury's still out on that. My wife was doing a prototype version of that. I've talked to other folks. I think our models are quite good, but they're not great at keeping track of characters over book length pieces or reproducing particular things.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

I would ground that in, what can we be good at now? Then let's, as we move into new use cases, navigate those carefully in terms of who is actually using it and are we providing value to the right folks in that exchange?