Mike Krieger

I would agree with the assessment, maybe different root causes. I think what we saw, some sites were able to balance kind of a mix of subscription, tasteful ads, good content. I would put The Verge at the top of that list. I'm not just saying that. I'm talking to you. Legitimately, every time we linked to a Verge story from Artifact, somebody clicked through.

It was like, this is a good experience. It feels like things are in balance. At the extremes, though, like local news, a lot of those websites for economic reasons have become sort of like you arrive, there's a sign in with Google before you've even read a single thing, a pop up to sign up to the newsletter. It's like before you've even consumed any content.

It was like, this is a good experience. It feels like things are in balance. At the extremes, though, like local news, a lot of those websites for economic reasons have become sort of like you arrive, there's a sign in with Google before you've even read a single thing, a pop up to sign up to the newsletter. It's like before you've even consumed any content.

It was like, this is a good experience. It feels like things are in balance. At the extremes, though, like local news, a lot of those websites for economic reasons have become sort of like you arrive, there's a sign in with Google before you've even read a single thing, a pop up to sign up to the newsletter. It's like before you've even consumed any content.

I think that's like probably a longer run economic question of supporting local news, probably more so than AI, at least like that trend seems like it's been happening for quite a bit. The creator piece is also really interesting where, you know, if you look at where things that are breaking news or at least like emerging stories are happening, they're often happening.

I think that's like probably a longer run economic question of supporting local news, probably more so than AI, at least like that trend seems like it's been happening for quite a bit. The creator piece is also really interesting where, you know, if you look at where things that are breaking news or at least like emerging stories are happening, they're often happening.

I think that's like probably a longer run economic question of supporting local news, probably more so than AI, at least like that trend seems like it's been happening for quite a bit. The creator piece is also really interesting where, you know, if you look at where things that are breaking news or at least like emerging stories are happening, they're often happening.

It's an ex-post that went viral. And what we would often get on Artifact is the summary roundup of the reactions to the thing that happened yesterday, which if you're relying on that, you're a little bit out of the loop already. And so I think when I look at where things are happening and where the conversation is happening,

It's an ex-post that went viral. And what we would often get on Artifact is the summary roundup of the reactions to the thing that happened yesterday, which if you're relying on that, you're a little bit out of the loop already. And so I think when I look at where things are happening and where the conversation is happening,

It's an ex-post that went viral. And what we would often get on Artifact is the summary roundup of the reactions to the thing that happened yesterday, which if you're relying on that, you're a little bit out of the loop already. And so I think when I look at where things are happening and where the conversation is happening,

at least for the the kind of cultural kind of core piece of that conversation it's often not happening anymore on media properties it is starting somewhere else and then getting aggregated elsewhere and i think that just has a implication on a site or a product like artifact and how well you're ever going to feel like this is breaking news so over time we moved more to let's be more interest-based which

at least for the the kind of cultural kind of core piece of that conversation it's often not happening anymore on media properties it is starting somewhere else and then getting aggregated elsewhere and i think that just has a implication on a site or a product like artifact and how well you're ever going to feel like this is breaking news so over time we moved more to let's be more interest-based which

at least for the the kind of cultural kind of core piece of that conversation it's often not happening anymore on media properties it is starting somewhere else and then getting aggregated elsewhere and i think that just has a implication on a site or a product like artifact and how well you're ever going to feel like this is breaking news so over time we moved more to let's be more interest-based which

Funny enough, Instagram, its heart was also very interest-based. Less breaking news. But can you have a product that is just that? I think that was the struggle.

Funny enough, Instagram, its heart was also very interest-based. Less breaking news. But can you have a product that is just that? I think that was the struggle.

Funny enough, Instagram, its heart was also very interest-based. Less breaking news. But can you have a product that is just that? I think that was the struggle.

Yeah, even citing newsletters is a great example where some of the best stuff that I read is, you know, sometimes there's a, you know, equivalent sub stack site that you could go look at. And some of the newsletters exist purely in email. We even set up an email account that just ingested newsletters to try to surface them, at least links from them.

Yeah, even citing newsletters is a great example where some of the best stuff that I read is, you know, sometimes there's a, you know, equivalent sub stack site that you could go look at. And some of the newsletters exist purely in email. We even set up an email account that just ingested newsletters to try to surface them, at least links from them.

Yeah, even citing newsletters is a great example where some of the best stuff that I read is, you know, sometimes there's a, you know, equivalent sub stack site that you could go look at. And some of the newsletters exist purely in email. We even set up an email account that just ingested newsletters to try to surface them, at least links from them.

And it was, you know, the designing experience is not there. I'd say that the thing I noticed on the open web in general, and like as a longtime fan of the web, something that was