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Mike Krieger

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

And like that, I don't think we're that far for some domains. I think we're far from some other ones, especially ones that involve sort of like either people longer range planning or thinking or research. But I use that as sort of my capabilities piece. It's like less like, you know, parameter size or like a particular eval. And to me, it's like, again, what problem are you solving?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

And like that, I don't think we're that far for some domains. I think we're far from some other ones, especially ones that involve sort of like either people longer range planning or thinking or research. But I use that as sort of my capabilities piece. It's like less like, you know, parameter size or like a particular eval. And to me, it's like, again, what problem are you solving?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

And like that, I don't think we're that far for some domains. I think we're far from some other ones, especially ones that involve sort of like either people longer range planning or thinking or research. But I use that as sort of my capabilities piece. It's like less like, you know, parameter size or like a particular eval. And to me, it's like, again, what problem are you solving?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

And right now it's like, I joke with our team. It's like right now talking to Claude is like, a very intelligent amnesiac. It's like every time you start a new conversation, it's like, wait, who are you again? Like, what am I here for? Like, what did we work on before? And it's like, instead, it's like, all right, like, can we carry continuity?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

And right now it's like, I joke with our team. It's like right now talking to Claude is like, a very intelligent amnesiac. It's like every time you start a new conversation, it's like, wait, who are you again? Like, what am I here for? Like, what did we work on before? And it's like, instead, it's like, all right, like, can we carry continuity?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

And right now it's like, I joke with our team. It's like right now talking to Claude is like, a very intelligent amnesiac. It's like every time you start a new conversation, it's like, wait, who are you again? Like, what am I here for? Like, what did we work on before? And it's like, instead, it's like, all right, like, can we carry continuity?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

Can we like have it be able to plan and execute on a longer horizon? And can you start trusting it to get some more things in? Because there's things I do every day that I'm like, I spent an hour on, you know, some stuff that I'd really wish I didn't have to do.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

Can we like have it be able to plan and execute on a longer horizon? And can you start trusting it to get some more things in? Because there's things I do every day that I'm like, I spent an hour on, you know, some stuff that I'd really wish I didn't have to do.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

Can we like have it be able to plan and execute on a longer horizon? And can you start trusting it to get some more things in? Because there's things I do every day that I'm like, I spent an hour on, you know, some stuff that I'd really wish I didn't have to do.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

And it's not like particularly leveraged use of my time, but I don't think Claude could quite do it right now without like a lot of scaffolding. And right now, here's maybe like a more succinct way to put a bow on it. Like right now, the scaffolding needed to get it to execute more complex tasks doesn't always feel worth the trade-offs because you probably could have done it yourself.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

And it's not like particularly leveraged use of my time, but I don't think Claude could quite do it right now without like a lot of scaffolding. And right now, here's maybe like a more succinct way to put a bow on it. Like right now, the scaffolding needed to get it to execute more complex tasks doesn't always feel worth the trade-offs because you probably could have done it yourself.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

And it's not like particularly leveraged use of my time, but I don't think Claude could quite do it right now without like a lot of scaffolding. And right now, here's maybe like a more succinct way to put a bow on it. Like right now, the scaffolding needed to get it to execute more complex tasks doesn't always feel worth the trade-offs because you probably could have done it yourself.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

I think there's an XCD comic on like time spent automating something versus time that you actually get to save doing it. Like that trade-off is at different points on the AI curve. And I think that would be the bet is can we shorten that time to value so that you can trust it to do more of those things.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

I think there's an XCD comic on like time spent automating something versus time that you actually get to save doing it. Like that trade-off is at different points on the AI curve. And I think that would be the bet is can we shorten that time to value so that you can trust it to do more of those things.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

I think there's an XCD comic on like time spent automating something versus time that you actually get to save doing it. Like that trade-off is at different points on the AI curve. And I think that would be the bet is can we shorten that time to value so that you can trust it to do more of those things.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

Like, you know, probably nobody really gets excited to put a, you know, coalesce all the planning documents that my product teams are working on into one document, write the meta narrative and like circulate to these three people. Like, man, I don't want to do that today. I have to do it today, but I don't want to do it today.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

Like, you know, probably nobody really gets excited to put a, you know, coalesce all the planning documents that my product teams are working on into one document, write the meta narrative and like circulate to these three people. Like, man, I don't want to do that today. I have to do it today, but I don't want to do it today.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

Like, you know, probably nobody really gets excited to put a, you know, coalesce all the planning documents that my product teams are working on into one document, write the meta narrative and like circulate to these three people. Like, man, I don't want to do that today. I have to do it today, but I don't want to do it today.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

I think that's an interesting way of asking. The way I think about it is the LLMs today deliver value, but they also deliver our ability or help our ability to go build a thing that delivers that value.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Anthropic’s Mike Krieger wants to build AI products that are worth the hype

I think that's an interesting way of asking. The way I think about it is the LLMs today deliver value, but they also deliver our ability or help our ability to go build a thing that delivers that value.