Mike Mello

There could be some other business shift, a new technology shift, like, I don't know, AI?

Like, that's a really good opportunity to take a look at your existing controls and then say, you know what?

These aren't holding their weight anymore.

Let's get rid of them and let's...

either replace them with something else or just genuinely eliminate them because they're not bringing any value.

I'm a little lost with the analogy, but conceptually the— Well, you're not a doctor, Mark.

And I don't even play one on TV.

No.

But I recently stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.

Anyway, I think the concept and really what they're trying to get across, and as Mike was mentioning, you need to think in terms of systems.

It can't just be these individual components.

All of these fit together.

Exactly.

And I think that's fundamentally what the attempt at the analogy was, was to really talk about –

an enterprise or a set of environments as a system rather than just their disparate components.

And I think that is something that's very much long been needed.

And it's all the more so in this world of AI where these systems are using data in ways that we don't expect.

They're not deterministic systems.

And so we can't say, well, it always uses this data in this way.

Knowing what you have, where it comes from, and how it moves through your environment.