Mike Nellis

To me, I can understand going, I'm going to win.

And if you believe what's written in those books, like Tapper's book, it's in there, I think, and then...

There's just a couple of other anecdotes that exist that they were closing really strong, that they found themselves like way, way back a couple months before the election and they were closing so strong.

And sometimes the candidate with the higher favorables is the one who converts the most.

And I think people don't understand, like, it's unusual for candidates

Kamala Harris to have been the candidate that people liked personally more, but choose to pull the lever for Donald Trump in that election.

And again, 180,000 votes, three states.

It's very close.

But I can see her just believing that.

I mean, the same thing happened to Mitt Romney, too.

I mean, that race was closer than people remember it being.

And Romney believed that he was going to win.

And you always get kind of insulated.

Like, you're out there doing the campaign.

You're basically talent at that point.

You're like a...

You know, does Stephen Tyler know what's going on with, you know, anything in his operation?

Like, probably not, because his job is to go out there and sing and party.

Like, that's what it is.

So I just think it's probably somewhat similar to that.