Mike Nellis

There was a lot of people, I think, that were just like a little bit, you know, worried about it.

And we didn't know if we could do it, but we did it, you know.

And so I will tell you that there was a candidate that was thinking about running for Senate in this last election where like a lot of her consultants that I was working with were telling her to run.

And I pulled her aside and went.

I don't, I don't think you should run.

And ultimately she did it.

And I think that was the right call.

And it's a really hard thing to do because I'm incentivized to do that.

Like that was probably like, you know, $10 million I would have gotten for the digital persuasion, the digital advertising that I could have done.

And I would have gotten a hefty commission on that.

But like, for me, I care way more about winning elections than I do about like making the money.

Like we make plenty of money regardless.

Um, so I try to give the best advice that I can.

But the other thing is like sometimes running and losing is also okay.

Like you can run and lose and your star can rise and you can make a point and you can move the ball forward.

Like we need a lot of people who are going to step up in states like Arkansas and Mississippi and Iowa that like are going to have tough go of it if they're going to win, but they're going to have a down ballot effect.

Like Tim Ryan ran for Senate in Ohio against J.D.

Vance, right?

And that race was not as close as we would have liked it to be.

But the coordinated campaign that he ran dragged two House candidates up that helped Democrats flip the House in that election.