Mike Nellis

You're basically talent at that point.

You're like a...

You know, does Stephen Tyler know what's going on with, you know, anything in his operation?

Like, probably not, because his job is to go out there and sing and party.

Like, that's what it is.

So I just think it's probably somewhat similar to that.

We can try to run.

Yeah.

So what I'll say is like, I have had conversations like that.

I think a lot of political consultants don't have conversations like that because we are incentivized to get you to run.

Like if you're, and I'll tell the people this, like I run one of the largest digital fundraising and advertising firms in the space.

So I've worked on a lot of races that I didn't really believe that we could win.

And then sometimes somehow we pull it out.

Like it has happened before.

Like to be honest, I did Katie Hobbs's race four years ago.

I'm doing a reelection now.

Like it was a hard race.

Like I think even going into it, if you ask the campaign leadership, a lot of people would have been like, I don't know that we can win this.

It's going to be close.

And sure enough, she beat she beat Kari Lake, which was amazing.