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Mike Osterholm

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

One of the things that was very challenging is that we never spent the time afterwards, either commitment-wise or just from a time standpoint, to assess what the heck happened.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

What did we go through?

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

We needed a 9-11-like commission without finger-pointing, not partisan, just to say what are the lessons we could have and should have learned.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

And so, you know, we came up with this virus.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

You know, at the time that we saw COVID take off, there were a lot of people skeptical that a coronavirus was going to do this.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

As we know, SARS and MERS were both two prototype coronaviruses that, in fact, were of great concern.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

But fortunately, as much as they could kill 15 to 35 percent of the people who got infected,

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

they weren't that infectious.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

There were rare instances where we did have some super spreaders, but basically we were able to stop that transmission.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

Well, the whole point came up, and of course I had the good fortune to spend some time with the real coronavirus experts, where what would happen if we had a coronavirus that had the ability to basically spread like we saw with COVID, meaning with the ACE receptor, et cetera, perfect package for spread.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

also one that had the perfect package on board to cause severe illness, like we saw with MERS and SARS.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

And sure enough, we've now actually found viruses like that in the wild.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

And so the challenge really is right now is the fact that this isn't such a sensational potential scenario.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

It's one that very realistic realistically could happen.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

But regardless of what happens with the next SARS, like a pandemic or influenza, it's going to happen.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

As we've talked about, the pandemic clock is ticking.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

We just don't know what time it is.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

And there's no guarantee because we just came through a pandemic that the next one couldn't start tomorrow.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

But assuming that we may have a little bit of time, the question is, what can we do now to learn from what we went through with COVID to be much better prepared for the future?

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

What are the technology issues that we can use to our advantage now we didn't have five years ago?